Jump to content
North Side Baseball
Posted
For those who are fine/OK with this, would you have been OK with it if we hired Dowell Loggains and he wasn't already a member of our staff? Or if we hired him last year?

 

I'm just trying to figure out how much of it for you is the continuity factor.

 

Certainly continuity plays a part, and it is meaningful. But the biggest thing is that I trust Fox with coaching hires. End of half timeout usage, no. But coaching hires, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

  • Replies 92
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted
For those who are fine/OK with this, would you have been OK with it if we hired Dowell Loggains and he wasn't already a member of our staff? Or if we hired him last year?

 

I'm just trying to figure out how much of it for you is the continuity factor.

I think the entire record matters, but the success of Cutler last year certainly helps. The rest of his record...

 

He's pretty accomplished at a young age as far as titles so that must count for something. The results aren't quite there but neither was the talent until last year. Probably wouldn't have liked the hire as much last year but then again there was an already fantastic OC available. There was no slam dunk OC candidate unlike last year.

Posted
For those who are fine/OK with this, would you have been OK with it if we hired Dowell Loggains and he wasn't already a member of our staff? Or if we hired him last year?

 

I'm just trying to figure out how much of it for you is the continuity factor.

I think the entire record matters, but the success of Cutler last year certainly helps. The rest of his record...

 

He's pretty accomplished at a young age as far as titles so that must count for something. The results aren't quite there but neither was the talent until last year. Probably wouldn't have liked the hire as much last year but then again there was an already fantastic OC available. There was no slam dunk OC candidate unlike last year.

 

Guess I like Whisenhunt more than most, because I consider him that.

Posted
For those who are fine/OK with this, would you have been OK with it if we hired Dowell Loggains and he wasn't already a member of our staff? Or if we hired him last year?

 

I'm just trying to figure out how much of it for you is the continuity factor.

 

Certainly continuity plays a part, and it is meaningful. But the biggest thing is that I trust Fox with coaching hires. End of half timeout usage, no. But coaching hires, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

That's fair and it's the only comforting thing about this for me.

Posted (edited)
For those who are fine/OK with this, would you have been OK with it if we hired Dowell Loggains and he wasn't already a member of our staff? Or if we hired him last year?

 

I'm just trying to figure out how much of it for you is the continuity factor.

 

Certainly continuity plays a part, and it is meaningful. But the biggest thing is that I trust Fox with coaching hires. End of half timeout usage, no. But coaching hires, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

That's fair and it's the only comforting thing about this for me.

Well to add to your above thought Fox turned down Wisenhunt before in favor of promoting his mid thirties QB coach/ first time OC.

Edited by WrigleyField 22
Posted
Other positive- Loggains has a lot of Shannahan West Coast exposure, an offense many wanted to run this time last off season.
Posted
Sounds like Groh may indeed move from WR into the QB coach roll. The line if succession is being put in place (if Loggains proves worthy).
Posted
For those who are fine/OK with this, would you have been OK with it if we hired Dowell Loggains and he wasn't already a member of our staff? Or if we hired him last year?

 

I'm just trying to figure out how much of it for you is the continuity factor.

 

Certainly continuity plays a part, and it is meaningful. But the biggest thing is that I trust Fox with coaching hires. End of half timeout usage, no. But coaching hires, I give him the benefit of the doubt.

This is pretty much where I am at.

Posted
For those who are fine/OK with this, would you have been OK with it if we hired Dowell Loggains and he wasn't already a member of our staff? Or if we hired him last year?

 

I'm just trying to figure out how much of it for you is the continuity factor.

 

Um, I would have hated this move if we hired Loggains off the street THIS year. Because I would hope Fox could do better. If we did it last year, I would have been OK with it for the reasons Goony listed. I trust Fox's hires (though I didn't like the Fox hire). Continuity is about 85% of the reason I'm fine with this.

Posted
Anybody here interested in tanking 2016 for Watson?

 

What the heck?

Posted
For those who are fine/OK with this, would you have been OK with it if we hired Dowell Loggains and he wasn't already a member of our staff? Or if we hired him last year?

 

I'm just trying to figure out how much of it for you is the continuity factor.

 

Um, I would have hated this move if we hired Loggains off the street THIS year. Because I would hope Fox could do better. If we did it last year, I would have been OK with it for the reasons Goony listed. I trust Fox's hires (though I didn't like the Fox hire). Continuity is about 85% of the reason I'm fine with this.

 

See, to me, if 85% of the reason you approve is continuity, that seems like a bad move to me.

Posted
Anybody here interested in tanking 2016 for Watson?

 

What the heck?

 

Yeah, no kidding...wtf

Posted
For those who are fine/OK with this, would you have been OK with it if we hired Dowell Loggains and he wasn't already a member of our staff? Or if we hired him last year?

 

I'm just trying to figure out how much of it for you is the continuity factor.

 

Um, I would have hated this move if we hired Loggains off the street THIS year. Because I would hope Fox could do better. If we did it last year, I would have been OK with it for the reasons Goony listed. I trust Fox's hires (though I didn't like the Fox hire). Continuity is about 85% of the reason I'm fine with this.

 

See, to me, if 85% of the reason you approve is continuity, that seems like a bad move to me.

 

Eh. Jay hasn't had any continuity since he's been here. I think it's a big deal. Also throw in the fact that Fox is over 60, Cutler isn't here for the super long-term, and I think it's kind of the best that we can do given the situation.

 

If the Bears were going all-in in developing the QB of the future or had a young head coach that you'd project could be around long-term if things go well, then I think it'd be a bad move.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
The North Side Baseball Caretaker Fund
The North Side Baseball Caretaker Fund

You all care about this site. The next step is caring for it. We’re asking you to caretake this site so it can remain the premier Cubs community on the internet. Included with caretaking is ad-free browsing of North Side Baseball.

×
×
  • Create New...