Olney: Cubs absolute favorite to land Stanton if he's dealt

[Castros trade value]

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Forgive me if this has been posted as I couldn't find it in other sections of NSBB.

 

http://nesn.com/2014/08/buster-olney-cubs-could-create-best-trade-package-for-giancarlo-stanton/

 

 

“The team viewed as the favorite absolutely is the Chicago Cubs,” Olney said Wednesday on WEEI’s “Middays with MFB,” “because they are just so loaded with position prospects, and if at any point they stick their elbows out, the Red Sox or any other team are probably going to have a hard time matching what the Cubs could put together for him.”

Edited August 30, 2014 by Castro's trade value

[Guest]

aka the cubs have an amazing farm system

[Clem Fandango]

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[NOLA]

Yeah, but that doesn't seem like anymore info than we already know.

[Clem Fandango]

Yeah, but that doesn't seem like anymore info than we already know.

 

Correct, but it sure is fun to talk about.

[Guest]

seriously, though, unless the thread buried the lede by not including the part that's an actual sourced rumor, this isn't news in any way

 

 

the cubs would be the favorite to land any player

[Cubswin11]

"Team with the best prospects in MLB would be favorites to land a player if he was made available for prospects." Thanks for that eye opening info, Buster.

[Castros trade value]

Furthermore, Buster, at what cost? Russell and Soler? Pass.

[Guest]

cubs already have a better and younger version of stanton

[Guest]

cubs already have a better and younger version of stanton

 

ok let's not go too crazy

 

though that second home run tonight was definitely stanton-esque

[Guest]

the problem with having an embarrassment of riches is that when trade talks happen, the other teams think that they can ask for those richest products.

[treebird]

the problem with having an embarrassment of riches is that when trade talks happen, the other teams think that they can ask for those richest products.

 

this was honestly my thought as well. i kind of expect the marlins to demand twenty percent of a team's farm system for stanton and end up taking lesser guys when we're unwilling to trade from the very top.

[Guest]

cubs already have a better and younger version of stanton

 

ok let's not go too crazy

 

though that second home run tonight was definitely stanton-esque

 

ok, take out the better part, but he's starting to make me believe. it would be nice to have them in the same outfield. I'd give them Baez and Russell today for him.

[Guest]

i'm gonna go full sully and say that if almora were doing better i'd be all about a castro/almora package for stanton

 

(full sully in that i'm so in love with russell at this point that if i absolutely HAD to pick between keeping one, i'd keep russell - and i fully admit that could be very irrational)

Edited August 30, 2014 by David

[treebird]

I'd give them Baez and Russell today for him.

 

i refuse to believe that will be necessary

[treebird]

can we trick the marlins into thinking almora isn't trash? someone good plus almora sounds like a good starting point for stanton to me.

[Guest]

i'm gonna go full sully and say that if almora were doing better i'd be all about a castro/almora package for stanton

 

(full sully in that i'm so in love with russell at this pinot that if i absolutely HAD to pick between keeping one, i'd keep russell - and i fully admit that could be very irrational)

 

i don't think we'd get away with Castro instead of Russell. I hope Tree is right in saying we won't have to give up Baez and Russell for him, though.

[Guest]

can we trick the marlins into thinking almora isn't trash? someone good plus almora sounds like a good starting point for stanton to me.

 

he's not trash. let's not get carried away.

 

he adjusted and did really well in A+ for a while before his callup while being one of the youngest guys in that league. now he's even younger for his level and has had some struggles but is showing signs of life.

 

he just seems like trash because everything else we have is amazing.

[treebird]

can we trick the marlins into thinking almora isn't trash? someone good plus almora sounds like a good starting point for stanton to me.

 

he's not trash. let's not get carried away.

 

he adjusted and did really well in A+ for a while before his callup while being one of the youngest guys in that league. now he's even younger for his level and has had some struggles but is showing signs of life.

 

he just seems like trash because everything else we have is amazing.

 

yes that is exactly what we will tell the marlins while swinging the pocket watch in front of their eyes

[Guest]

i'm gonna go full sully and say that if almora were doing better i'd be all about a castro/almora package for stanton

 

(full sully in that i'm so in love with russell at this pinot that if i absolutely HAD to pick between keeping one, i'd keep russell - and i fully admit that could be very irrational)

 

i don't think we'd get away with Castro instead of Russell. I hope Tree is right in saying we won't have to give up Baez and Russell for him, though.

 

I'm saying if Almora were in AA at least mashing like he did last year, though. Then he'd be a top 20ish prospect, if not better, and Castro is one of the best under 25 year old Major Leaguers in the game.

Edited August 30, 2014 by David

[Cubswin11]

I get what you said that we have the riches and they are gonna ask for them, but Theo/Jed are gonna come right back and tell them they aren't getting 2 of Russell/Baez because no other team can offer close to that. They can have 1+ Almora and another few guys in the late teens/20s of the org and no other team will still be able to match.

[Guest]

i'm gonna go full sully and say that if almora were doing better i'd be all about a castro/almora package for stanton

 

(full sully in that i'm so in love with russell at this point that if i absolutely HAD to pick between keeping one, i'd keep russell - and i fully admit that could be very irrational)

 

even if almora still was at his peak value i don't see why the marlins would entertain something centered around castro/almora. he's [expletive] giancarlo stanton and he's still only 24. they'd get at least one of the big 4, and would deserve it.

[Guest]

i'm gonna go full sully and say that if almora were doing better i'd be all about a castro/almora package for stanton

 

(full sully in that i'm so in love with russell at this point that if i absolutely HAD to pick between keeping one, i'd keep russell - and i fully admit that could be very irrational)

 

even if almora still was at his peak value i don't see why the marlins would entertain something centered around castro/almora. he's [expletive] giancarlo stanton and he's still only 24. they'd get at least one of the big 4, and would deserve it.

 

Almora was top 25 (i'm going off memory here so sue me if i'm a bit off) on multiple legit prospect lists prior to this year. You're severely undervaluing what he'd be if he were still playing well this year and you're clearly severely undervaluing Castro (I'm saying this because you seem think one of the big 4 is clearly a better trade piece - before I get called out on being contradictory, I admitted that my preference to trade him over one of the aforementioned big 4 in Russell, was irrational).

[chuckywang]

Guys, it's gonna have to be Bryant or Baez for Stanton. Stanton's an MVP candidate every year and he's not even at his prime yet.

[Guest]

i'm gonna go full sully and say that if almora were doing better i'd be all about a castro/almora package for stanton

 

(full sully in that i'm so in love with russell at this point that if i absolutely HAD to pick between keeping one, i'd keep russell - and i fully admit that could be very irrational)

 

even if almora still was at his peak value i don't see why the marlins would entertain something centered around castro/almora. he's [expletive] giancarlo stanton and he's still only 24. they'd get at least one of the big 4, and would deserve it.

 

Almora was top 25 (i'm going off memory here so sue me if i'm a bit off) on multiple legit prospect lists prior to this year. You're severely undervaluing what he'd be if he were still playing well this year and you're clearly severely undervaluing Castro.

 

i think you're massively undervaluing giancarlo stanton. castro is a nice 3-win shortstop who is signed for cheap. almora, even at his peak as a top 25 prospect, still had a relatively limited ceiling as an offensive player.

 

seriously, think about it the other way around. your favorite team has stanton, a 24 year old who already has over 600 major league games of a .900+ ops and the potential for more. can you honestly tell me you'd be okay accepting an offer of a 25-year-old 3-win shortstop (who might need to be moved to 3b or 2b) and a top 25ish prospect that likely has an offensive ceiling of an .800-.850 OPS? i really dont think you would.