Minor League Discussion & Boxes 6-9-13

[Guest]

Arismendy Alcantara's previous career high in BBs was 19. He's at 26 already this season.

So what's his ceiling? How excited should I be on him?

 

Depends, do you find a shortstop who's on pace to hit 20+ homers and steal 35+ bases at over 90% accuracy while in 600 PAs as a 21 year old in AA exciting?

I do, is this a fluke start though? I guess that's more my worry with him. Is this SSS, or is he improving by leaps and bounds?

 

It's not really SSS at this point.

 

And apparently he started the uptick last year but lots of people didn't notice.

[Guest]

He was an IFA. Can't remember, but think he signed for under or right at 100k. Definitely wasn't a major bonus guy though.

 

Under - I would have his bonus information if it was 6 figures.

[Guest]

Arismendy Alcantara's previous career high in BBs was 19. He's at 26 already this season.

So what's his ceiling? How excited should I be on him?

 

Depends, do you find a shortstop who's on pace to hit 20+ homers and steal 35+ bases at over 90% accuracy while in 600 PAs as a 21 year old in AA exciting?

I do, is this a fluke start though? I guess that's more my worry with him. Is this SSS, or is he improving by leaps and bounds?

 

It's not really SSS at this point.

 

And apparently he started the uptick last year but lots of people didn't notice.

 

He sure did (though his BB% has nearly doubled this season): http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa506657&position=SS

[Warpticon]

He made a big step forward last year and might have made it to AA by the end of the season (probably not, though) if he hadn't gotten hurt. His step forward this year is even bigger, though.

 

His BABIPs as a pro are .358, .337, .347, and .340. His ISO are .119, .081, .145, and .197. His BB% are 4.3, 4.1, 5.3, 10.2. His K% are 22.6, 19.5, 17.0, 20.3. He was 7/10, 8/16, 25/29, and 15/16 as a base stealer over those four years. Looks like pretty steady progress from where I stand.

[Guest]

He made a big step forward last year and might have made it to AA by the end of the season (probably not, though) if he hadn't gotten hurt. His step forward this year is even bigger, though.

 

His BABIPs as a pro are .358, .337, .347, and .340. His ISO are .119, .081, .145, and .197. His BB% are 4.3, 4.1, 5.3, 10.2. His K% are 22.6, 19.5, 17.0, 20.3. He was 7/10, 8/16, 25/29, and 15/16 as a base stealer over those four years. Looks like pretty steady progress from where I stand.

 

And he's 21 in AA.

[Guest]

Alcantara since 5/1/12: 535 PA, .306/.358/.475/.833, 14 HR, 43/98 BB/K, 36/41 SB

 

Those PA are pretty much evenly divided between Daytona and Tennessee.

[illiniguy]

Alcantara since 5/1/12: 535 PA, .306/.358/.475/.833, 14 HR, 43/98 BB/K, 36/41 SB

 

Those PA are pretty much evenly divided between Daytona and Tennessee.

Jesus, that's what I thought Starlin might become. Maybe a bit heavier on OBP.

[Warpticon]

Interestingly enough, although he has 20 errors already, he's actually improved his fielding percentage by a significant chunk. Also, I didn't realize he had played so many games at 2B this year (12). He also has a bizarrely blatant L/R split, considering he's a switch hitter, so I checked previous years and there was no such issue. Sample size?

[Little Slide Rooter]

He was an IFA. Can't remember, but think he signed for under or right at 100k. Definitely wasn't a major bonus guy though.

 

I think I remember hearing the name, but at that time Amaya and Hernandez were the young SS prospects getting the most attention.

 

But how much longer does Alcantara toy with AA, especially with the AAA starting SS job currently held down by Brent Lillibridge?

 

The trouble is, as long as SS is his primary position, I'm not sure where he can go from there. Even if Castro's OPS continues to spiral into numbers that would make Koyie Hill blush, he's not going anywhere. May as we give Alcantara some more time at 2nd. Maybe a bit at 3rd.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Nice to see Candelerio pulling himself back into top 10 consideration. Over the past 10, he's at .390/.444/.551/1.005, pulling his season line to .276/.361/.398/.759.

[Cubswin11]

Nice to see Candelerio pulling himself back into top 10 consideration. Over the past 10, he's at .390/.444/.551/1.005, pulling his season line to .276/.361/.398/.759.

He's definitely in my top 10 and really hasn't been out all year, even after the draft now. I probably have him somewhere between 7 and 10.

 

 

Soler

Bryant

Baez

Almora

Alcantara

Johnson

Lake

Candelario

JCP

Szczur or Villanueva (with the pitchers just drafted Z, Skulina, Masek, Clifton and Maples getting consideration after the year is over).

Edited June 10, 2013 by Cubswin11

[Guest]

Arismendy Alcantara's previous career high in BBs was 19. He's at 26 already this season.

So what's his ceiling? How excited should I be on him?

 

Depends, do you find a shortstop who's on pace to hit 20+ homers and steal 35+ bases at over 90% accuracy while in 600 PAs as a 21 year old in AA exciting?

I do, is this a fluke start though? I guess that's more my worry with him. Is this SSS, or is he improving by leaps and bounds?

 

It's not really SSS at this point.

 

And apparently he started the uptick last year but lots of people didn't notice.

It's his approach that makes him exciting as a prospect. It's fun to get updates, kind of like what it must have been like before every game highlight was on TV. It kind of goes without saying that the jury is still out. I can't wait to see the final numbers for a lot of the top hitting prospects.

[KingCubsFan]

He was an IFA. Can't remember, but think he signed for under or right at 100k. Definitely wasn't a major bonus guy though.

 

I think I remember hearing the name, but at that time Amaya and Hernandez were the young SS prospects getting the most attention.

 

But how much longer does Alcantara toy with AA, especially with the AAA starting SS job currently held down by Brent Lillibridge?

 

The trouble is, as long as SS is his primary position, I'm not sure where he can go from there. Even if Castro's OPS continues to spiral into numbers that would make Koyie Hill blush, he's not going anywhere. May as we give Alcantara some more time at 2nd. Maybe a bit at 3rd.

He's been seeing some time at 2B recently. My guess is that he'll continue to split time between the two positions, with more time devoted to SS for trade value/experience purposes.

[illiniguy]

If his approach holds up at higher levels, I'm not so sure he's the one we should be trying at multiple positions to increase trade value.

[Little Slide Rooter]

He's 21 years old. We should be trying him at multiple positions to increase his value to us.

[Guest]

He's 21 years old. We should be trying him at multiple positions to increase his value to us.

 

Or just try him at the most difficult one he can play and leave him there.

 

A move to 2B or 3B later is not something you should need to plan ahead for years in advance.

[Sammy Sofa]

I seriously want to see WSR run a baseball sim.

[Guest]

He's 21 years old. We should be trying him at multiple positions to increase his value to us.

 

It's SS to 2B, not SS to C.

 

Besides, his greatest trade value is at SS.