Game 1 - Indianapolis Colts @ BEARS - 12:00 PM

[Guest]

Gumbel said that Shannahan said that Cutler has a better arm that Elway did. Really?

 

Not the first time that's been said.

[Magnetic Curses]

jay is faster, more athletic, less statuesque in the pocket, his arm is way way stronger. there's no comparison and there may never be.

 

You could have said those very same things about Peyton Manning, Brees, and maybe even Brady the last 10 years. Some people are just smarter than the rest and have a better football IQ. I think Luck is going to have a higher football IQ compared to Jay before long. Maybe Jay just needed a great receiver to make his football IQ look better than it is. We'll see.

 

re: arguments being dumb as dog [expletive]

 

How good is Manning's athleticism? He has average arm strength. A veritable statue. Notice you didn't say anything about accuracy. That is what those three guys have and that is one of Jay's weaknesses.

 

i don't know where those guys come in and i don't know how one can assert, from watching today's game, that luck is accurate.

 

i do know that jay has won his last 6 starts in fairly impressive fashion and most likely would have had a chance at the super bowl had he not been injured last year.

[Magnetic Curses]

It's possible. It's also irrelevant. You've made a bunch of comments in response to me, and they've either been simply wrong or not even wrong. Care to make one on point and not wrong?

 

and now mr poopy pants rears his ugly head

[Theo]

Great win, Lovie couldn't resit with a dumbass challenge though huh? lol

[Wilson A2000]

jay is faster, more athletic, less statuesque in the pocket, his arm is way way stronger. there's no comparison and there may never be.

 

You could have said those very same things about Peyton Manning, Brees, and maybe even Brady the last 10 years. Some people are just smarter than the rest and have a better football IQ. I think Luck is going to have a higher football IQ compared to Jay before long. Maybe Jay just needed a great receiver to make his football IQ look better than it is. We'll see.

 

re: arguments being dumb as dog [expletive]

 

How good is Manning's athleticism? He has average arm strength. A veritable statue. Notice you didn't say anything about accuracy. That is what those three guys have and that is one of Jay's weaknesses.

 

i don't know where those guys come in and i don't know how one can assert, from watching today's game, that luck is accurate.

 

i do know that jay has won his last 6 starts in fairly impressive fashion and most likely would have had a chance at the super bowl had he not been injured last year.

 

I agree with your last line. My point is that you can't say that athleticism and a strong arm means you are a better QB or will be one when 3/4 of the top QBs in the league don't have those traits (Rodgers is the perfect mix of everything). But the more I think about it, I think Luck is just about as athletic as Cutler. What did he run in the 40? 4.5-4.6?

[Magnetic Curses]

who was more accurate today?

[Wilson A2000]

who was more accurate today?

 

Cutler obviously, though Luck had a 70% completion % his last two years at Stanford. One game though. I'm fairly certain by the end of next year Luck will have the higher football IQ. He won't be the better QB by then, but I think his career ceiling is higher than Cutler's. The one thing holding Jay back is that he tries to force passes. And I don't see that improving any time soon.

[Magnetic Curses]

who was more accurate today?

 

Cutler obviously, though Luck had a 70% completion % his last two years at Stanford. One game though. I'm fairly certain by the end of next year Luck will have the higher football IQ. He won't be the better QB by then, but I think his career ceiling is higher than Cutler's. The one thing holding Jay back is that he tries to force passes. And I don't see that improving any time soon.

 

having confidence in yourself and your receivers doesn't mean you have a low "football iq". tons of successful quarterbacks have been gunslingers, including the qb who holds most of every record. i don't get your point.

[Banedon]

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It's nice to have that on film for the Packers.

[Magnetic Curses]

that rivals his 60-yard bomb to javon walker.

[Magnetic Curses]

rodgers got a nice arm, but it's no ragnarok like that one

[Wilson A2000]

who was more accurate today?

 

Cutler obviously, though Luck had a 70% completion % his last two years at Stanford. One game though. I'm fairly certain by the end of next year Luck will have the higher football IQ. He won't be the better QB by then, but I think his career ceiling is higher than Cutler's. The one thing holding Jay back is that he tries to force passes. And I don't see that improving any time soon.

 

having confidence in yourself and your receivers doesn't mean you have a low "football iq". tons of successful quarterbacks have been gunslingers, including the qb who holds most of every record. i don't get your point.

 

It does if you throw too many INTs. It means (1.5:1 vs 1.3:1) you are forcing things beyond your ability. The one gunslinger you are talking about has a much higher TD to INT % than Cutler does . That's my point.

Edited September 10, 2012 by Wilson A2000

[Magnetic Curses]

 

It does if you throw too many INTs. It means you are forcing things beyond your ability. The one gunslinger you are talking about has a much higher TD to INT % than Cutler does. That's my point.

 

so some quarterbacks that have low football iqs are good and some aren't? wonderfully insightful stuff.

[Wilson A2000]

 

It does if you throw too many INTs. It means you are forcing things beyond your ability. The one gunslinger you are talking about has a much higher TD to INT % than Cutler does. That's my point.

 

so some quarterbacks that have low football iqs are good and some aren't? wonderfully insightful stuff.

 

Gunslingers who score TDs to overcome their INTs also overcome their bad QB IQs.

[cubweiser03]

Marshall was awesome. Him and jay are going to roll this year.

Forte was awesome. He's damn good.

[Magnetic Curses]

 

It does if you throw too many INTs. It means you are forcing things beyond your ability. The one gunslinger you are talking about has a much higher TD to INT % than Cutler does. That's my point.

 

so some quarterbacks that have low football iqs are good and some aren't? wonderfully insightful stuff.

 

Gunslingers who score TDs to overcome their INTs also overcome their bad QB IQs.

 

but you said the whole problem was bad qb iq. you are twisted up ass-deep [expletive] in your own creepy logic again.

[Wilson A2000]

 

It does if you throw too many INTs. It means you are forcing things beyond your ability. The one gunslinger you are talking about has a much higher TD to INT % than Cutler does. That's my point.

 

so some quarterbacks that have low football iqs are good and some aren't? wonderfully insightful stuff.

 

Gunslingers who score TDs to overcome their INTs also overcome their bad QB IQs.

 

but you said the whole problem was bad qb iq. you are twisted up ass-deep [expletive] in your own creepy logic again.

 

Smart QB's throw TDs. Dumb ones throw INTs. Favre has a much better TD to INT % even though he is a gunslinger. This really is not that hard.

 

But the point is that the best QBs in the league don't have Cutler's physical abilities, yet they are better. Why is that? I find Luck to be more in the mold of the elite QBs and that is a good thing. I also think Luck's ceiling is higher.

Edited September 10, 2012 by Wilson A2000

[Magnetic Curses]

so favre didn't overcome his bad qb iq because he didn't have one? it gets better.

 

listen, needlehead, it's really nice seeing you again, but go ahead and take your cutler hate and bottle it up, keep it deep down and then let it explode on a day when cutler hasn't just stomped the [expletive] out of your nut-sack.

[Wilson A2000]

so favre didn't overcome his bad qb iq because he didn't have one? it gets better.

 

listen, needlehead, it's really nice seeing you again, but go ahead and take your cutler hate and bottle it up, keep it deep down and then let it explode on a day when cutler hasn't just stomped the [expletive] out of your [expletive].

 

Favre didn't have the highest football IQ at times because he took too many unnecessary chances. But his IQ seems to be higher than Jays who likes throwing the ball to the other team too much. I hope this stat improves and I would imagine it would.

 

Cutler was great today.

Edited September 10, 2012 by Wilson A2000

[Magnetic Curses]

luck looked like an INT-throwing, flailing, chucking insect in the sight of cutler today. you can hold out hope that he fulfills your wildest dreams, but jay impregnated luck's mother and he's going to have a baby-brother that becomes a better qb than he is.

[Magnetic Curses]

so favre didn't overcome his bad qb iq because he didn't have one? it gets better.

 

listen, needlehead, it's really nice seeing you again, but go ahead and take your cutler hate and bottle it up, keep it deep down and then let it explode on a day when cutler hasn't just stomped the [expletive] out of your [expletive].

 

Favre didn't have the highest football IQ at times because he took too many unnecessary chances. But his IQ seems to be higher than Jays who likes throwing the ball to the other team too much. I hope this stat improves and I would imagine it would.

 

Cutler was great today.

 

HE STOMPED ON YOUR NUT-SACK TODAY, SAY IT

[Wilson A2000]

luck looked like an INT-throwing, flailing, chucking insect in the sight of cutler today. you can hold out hope that he fulfills your wildest dreams, but jay impregnated luck's mother today and he's going to have a baby-brother that becomes a better qb than he is.

 

Luck probably looked exactly like Favre did his first game except Luck wasn't drunk. Luck will be just fine.

[Guest]

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[Wilson A2000]

so favre didn't overcome his bad qb iq because he didn't have one? it gets better.

 

listen, needlehead, it's really nice seeing you again, but go ahead and take your cutler hate and bottle it up, keep it deep down and then let it explode on a day when cutler hasn't just stomped the [expletive] out of your [expletive].

 

Favre didn't have the highest football IQ at times because he took too many unnecessary chances. But his IQ seems to be higher than Jays who likes throwing the ball to the other team too much. I hope this stat improves and I would imagine it would.

 

Cutler was great today.

 

HE STOMPED ON YOUR NUT-SACK TODAY, SAY IT

 

He did and I loved every minute of it