9/16 Astros (Rodriguez) @ Cubs (Garza) 1:20 PM

[SouthSideRyan]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CASEY MCGEEHEE AND TONY CAMPANA LOVE!!! BURN IN HELL DAVE KAPLAN YOU PIECE OF [expletive]

[TruffleShuffle]

i'm surprised he likes campana, the last name sounds too hispanic

[SouthSideRyan]

i'm surprised he likes campana, the last name sounds too hispanic

 

He's not Antonio Campana

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

that's kingkong's new thing, defending the manager who's running up stupid pitch counts in pointless games.

 

He's been towing the Cub's party line all summer.

 

That's what I'm doing? Towing the company line? Not only is he the team's best pitcher, but he's a 27 year old with a light at best injury history who's on pace to throw less pitches and innings this year than he has since he was 24.

 

Plus, he was a whole out away from the CG tonight.

[TruffleShuffle]

that's kingkong's new thing, defending the manager who's running up stupid pitch counts in pointless games.

 

He's been towing the Cub's party line all summer.

 

That's what I'm doing? Towing the company line? Not only is he the team's best pitcher, but he's a 27 year old with a light at best injury history who's on pace to throw less pitches and innings this year than he has since he was 24.

 

yes, and a large part of that reason is because he missed 2 or 3 starts with an elbow injury in may.

 

i'm just trying to figure out who it's not ok to have throw 120 to 130 pitches in meaningless games. dempster it's okay because he's 34 (he's got a not-as-great injury history, which you didn't seem concerned about). garza is 27, so everyone who's in the mid to late 20s and older can do it?

[Guest]

Did Ricketts let Quade know he won't be back next year so he's sabotaging the team for next year by leaving our pitchers in for 125+ pitches?

 

Not only was it not 125, but what was wrong with letting Garza finish the game? Not only is he the team's best pitcher, but he's young, durable, and had one more out to get.

 

I'm more pissed that he blew it.

 

Sorry 124. I don't have that much of a problem with bringing him out for the 9th since he was being so efficient but since he is young I'd prefer his pitch counts be kept to a minimum especially in a pointless game.

 

And if you're pissed he blew it and the Cubs didn't win; bringing in a reliever gives us a better chance to win.

 

Well obviously that one pitch makes all the difference in the world.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

yes, and a large part of that reason is because he missed 2 or 3 starts with an elbow injury in may.

 

i'm just trying to figure out who it's not ok to have throw 120 to 130 pitches in meaningless games. dempster it's okay because he's 34 (he's got a not-as-great injury history, which you didn't seem concerned about). garza is 27, so everyone who's in the mid to late 20s and older can do it?

 

I would assume so, yes, especially late in the season when the arms are nice and loose. When's the last time Dempster had an arm related injury? '04? Should I still be worried about the '09 toe? Why wouldn't/shouldn't Garza be able to do it? He threw 475 pitches in a 4 game span (two at 120 pitches) during September '09 for a 3rd place Rays team that finished 19 games back. They didn't exactly throw a calf our for the wolves here ala 22 year old Prior in a pennant race averaging over or ~120 in September and October. Both will hopefully recover during their 5 month recovery period.

 

BTW: These "meaningless" games (and believe me they mean nothing to me too) are what these guys do for a living. It comes before a 5 month period these millionaires can use to recover, hopefully responsibly. What are the parameters for a 120+ pitch starts anyway?