Minor League Discussion & Boxes 8-31-11

[Outshined_One]

Box Scores

 

Iowa lost 1-0 Box Score

 

CF B. Jackson 0/4, 2 K

LF L. Montanez 1/4

RF B. Snyder 0/4, 3 K

1B B. LaHair 0/3, K

3B DJ LeMahieu 0/3, K

2B R. Flaherty 1/3, K

SS M. Gonzalez 1/2, BB, 2B (12)

C C. Robinson 0/3

PH M. Spencer 0/1

PH S. Moore 0/1

SP J. Jackson 6 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 11 K, 2-3 GO-FO

RP R. Coello 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K, 1-0 GO-FO

 

Daytona won Game 1 of their DH 6-3 Box Score

 

LF E. Crawford 2/4, R, K

2B L. Watkins 0/3, K, E (17, throw)

3B M. Cerda 1/2, BB, 2 R, E (14, throw)

1B J. Bour 1/2, 2 RBI, 2B (30)

RF M. Burgess 1/2, BB, R, 2B (24)

CF M. Szczur 2/3, R, 3 RBI, HR (5)

SS E. Soto 1/3, RBI

C M. Brenly 0/3

SP DE Rhee 7 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, HR, 9-4 GO-FO

 

Daytona lost Game 2 of their DH 4-1 Box Score

 

LF E. Crawford 0/3

2B L. Watkins 0/3, K

1B G. Rohan 1/3, K

DH J. Bour 0/3

RF A. Abreu 2/3, R

3B M. Cerda 1/3

CF M. Szczur 2/3, RBI

SS E. Soto 1/2

C C. Noble 0/2

SP M. Del Valle 4 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 4 BB, 2 K, HR, Balk, 3-5 GO-FO

RP A. Kurcz 1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, HBP, 2-0 GO-FO

RP Y. Negrin 1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 1-1 GO-FO

RP J. Latham 1 perfect, 1-1 GO-FO

 

Peoria lost 8-3 Box Score

 

CF T. Easterling 1/4, K, E (2, throw)

2B R. Silva 1/4, R, K, 2 E (13, throw, fielding)

1B R. Jones 1/3, BB, R, RBI

3B D. Geiger 1/4, E (13, fielding)

LF B. Klafczynski 2/4, RBI

DH J. Morelli 1/4, K

SS K. Socorro 1/4, R, K

C S. Burruel 0/2, BB

SP A. Kirk 3.2 IP, 7 H, 6 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 2 HR, 5-3 GO-FO

RP R. Lopez 2.2 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, WP, 5-3 GO-FO

RP R. Hartman 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K, 2-0 GO-FO

 

Boise won 10-1 Box Score

 

LF Z. DeVoss 0/3, 2 BB, R, RBI

CF KM Na 2/4, 2 R, 2B (1), HBP

C R. Lopez 1/4, RBI

1B R. Cuneo 1/4, BB, 2 R, RBI, 2B (8), K

DH P. Hoilman 1/3, BB, 2 R, 2 RBI, HR (17), 2 K

RF R. Golden 2/4, R, 3 RBI, HR (6)

2B W. Darvill 0/3, BB

SS J. Baez 0/4, 2 K, HBP, E (1, throw)

3B W. Contreras 2/4, 2 R, RBI, 2B (5), HR (2), K

SP J. Rosario 6 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 6 K, 9-1 GO-FO

RP H. Mayora 2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 2-1 GO-FO

RP T. Zych 1 perfect, 1 K, 2-0 GO-FO

 

OVERALL: 2-3

[Guest]

Javier Baez is playing shortstop and batting 8th for Boise today.

[Guest]

Szczur with his 5th FSL home run.

 

Rhee: 6 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 6 K, 8-3 GO-FO. We'll see if he comes out for the 7th to try and get the cheapy CG.

[TruffleShuffle]

he did: 7.0 ip, 6 h, 3 er, 2 bb, 7 k, 1 hr. nice to see those K's keep coming because last year his K-rate was pretty poor.

[StarlinOnYou]

Rhee has really turned it up in the 2nd half. Very good to see.

[Guest]

Rhee has really turned it up in the 2nd half. Very good to see.

 

Opposite of last year, he really faded last August.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Jay with one of his best outings this year. 6 IP 7 H 1 ER 2/11 BB/K. I think they're going to have to protect him from the 40 man due to the lack of big league ready pitching depth.

[abohnhoff]

From @BoiseHawksRadio...

 

Na scores on WP, Golden hits his 3rd HR in as many days, a three-run shot, as Boise jumps to the early lead...BOI 4, VAN 0 T2

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Jay with one of his best outings this year. 6 IP 7 H 1 ER 2/11 BB/K. I think they're going to have to protect him from the 40 man due to the lack of big league ready pitching depth.

 

Like most I'd like to see him get a start in September, if anything to see how and what he's throwing nowadays.

[TruffleShuffle]

hoilman, golden and contreras have home runs for boise. baez is 0-3 with 2 K's and, you guessed it, an error. rosario has pitched well - 5 ip, 2 h, 0 r, 1 bb, 4 k.

 

austin kirk was terrible and his overall season numbers are pretty uninspiring.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Jay with one of his best outings this year. 6 IP 7 H 1 ER 2/11 BB/K. I think they're going to have to protect him from the 40 man due to the lack of big league ready pitching depth.

 

Like most I'd like to see him get a start in September, if anything to see how and what he's throwing nowadays.

 

The timings right for him to slide right into Rodrigo Lopezes spot next time around.

[Little Slide Rooter]

hoilman, golden and contreras have home runs for boise. baez is 0-3 with 2 K's and, you guessed it, an error. rosario has pitched well - 5 ip, 2 h, 0 r, 1 bb, 4 k.

 

austin kirk was terrible and his overall season numbers are pretty uninspiring.

 

Kirks been pretty lousy since the no hitter it seems.

[Guest]

hoilman, golden and contreras have home runs for boise. baez is 0-3 with 2 K's and, you guessed it, an error. rosario has pitched well - 5 ip, 2 h, 0 r, 1 bb, 4 k.

 

austin kirk was terrible and his overall season numbers are pretty uninspiring.

 

That was Hoilman's 17th of the season, breaking the Boise single season HR record which was previously held by Russ Canzler.

[JockJones]

I'm pretty sure that Hoilman was walked, hit a home run or struck out in over half of his PA's. I love it.

[TruffleShuffle]

I'm pretty sure that Hoilman was walked, hit a home run or struck out in over half of his PA's. I love it.

 

56.7% coming into today's game.

[Guest]

Rubi Silva went 1/4 but missed a 2/4 night because of this:

 

@peoriachiefs Rubi Silva doubles home two....but is then called out for missing first base to end the inning and the runs are erased. still 4-0 Beloit

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Anyone have any thoughts on who the best stuff belongs to of the recent IFA signings?

 

Also, what's the next step for Jeffery Baez, a young OF they signed that I think might become interesting? What's the difference between DSL 1 and 2?

[Guest]

Anyone have any thoughts on who the best stuff belongs to of the recent IFA signings?

 

Also, what's the next step for Jeffery Baez, a young OF they signed that I think might become interesting? What's the difference between DSL 1 and 2?

 

Baez will probably be at fall instructs (along with Candelario and Penalver). Then, he'll be at extended spring training and probably stay in Mesa next year.

 

DSL Cubs 2 has the better prospects. The stuff that team's roster for a playoff run.

[toonsterwu]

In year's past, DSL 2 was often the bad squad. This year, they were rolling along, and I remember, around early August perhaps, or late July, they started sending some of the better DSL 1 players over to DSL 2, probably in an effort to push for the playoffs, which they did. My hunch is that they just split the players they have relative to the needs of positions (for example, there was another highly touted shortstop, Daniel Sanchez, who struggled on DSL 1, so Carlos Penalver was on DSL 2) and then make a determination at midseason as to which squad is stronger and build that squad up.

 

KK v Godzilla - which class of IFA signings are you referencing? If it's this year's, no clue.

 

Silva - A lot of folks I know still believe that he's a prime breakout candidate once he gets out of the MWL. I still have my doubts, due to the K's, as I'd like to see that improved, but it sure is going to be interesting to see how he does in Daytona (in all likelihood) next year.

 

I haven't checked the stats in awhile, but Kirk seemed to be having some bad luck. Of course, a grain of salt with any minor league statistical numbers. If Nate's around, maybe he could shed some light, but the general feeling I get is that, early in the season, his mediocre stuff, but solid command, was sneaking by guys, but now that guys have had more looks at him, they are catching up to stuff. Sure feels like he's headed towards a pen move unless his stuff picks up.

 

Still fairly pleased with Golden's season. Perhaps a bit SNTS in hoping the K's will come down with experience, but at his age, we're allowed to hope.

 

Very curious if anyone has reports on how Jay Jackson's breaking stuff looked. If he ever found his breaking stuff AND maintained his control improvement, he'd be a solid end of the rotation option for awhile. I still have my doubts that he can do both, but here's hoping.

 

Very curious how Rosario's breaking ball develops. For some reason, I am somewhat reminded of the development of Alberto Cabrera.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

KK v Godzilla - which class of IFA signings are you referencing? If it's this year's, no clue.

 

Of the past 3 class...I'm especially interested in Latin America since it seems that Rhee and Wang are pulling ahead of other Asian pitcher signings. SPs...guys like Cabrera and Dolis need not make the conversation.

[toonsterwu]

Much as I've never been high on Jin-Yeong Kim, I wouldn't be that quick to slap him that far behind Yao-lin Wang. Wang is more polished, but Kim has a higher upside. That said, amongst the Asian arms, it's clearly Rhee and then the rest. Furthermore, I wouldn't write of Su-min Jung just yet, although I've never been that high on him as well.

 

As for the Latin American arms in the lower levels, in terms of potential (granted, you asked for stuff, but are you referencing current stuff or potential stuff, since some of these youngsters have a lot of physical development to go through), I'd go something like (just a rough go through)

 

Peralta

Paulino

Cruz

Liria

Rosario

Del Valle

Sandoval

Serrano

 

There's a few more names, and I don't know enough on guys like Abreu and others to hazard a guess.

[Guest]

In terms of signing class of 2009, clearly the best of the crop with the bat look to be Gioskar Amaya, Marco Hernandez and Willson Contreras. With the arms, probably Willengton Cruz, Amaury Paulino and Victor Garcia.

 

With the 2010 Latin America class, clearly Jeimer Candelario, Carlos Penalver and Jeffrey Baez have asserted themselves with the bat. Alexander Santana had a great season in the DSL but didn't get a lot of strikeouts.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Scouting report on Victor Garcia, Santana, Paulino, and for the hell of it Cruz?

 

Thanks in advance guys.

[toonsterwu]

I've got very little on Garcia.

 

Cruz is roughly in that 89-92 range, but I've heard from a couple folks that when he reaches back, he has touched mid-90's. He is projected to add some more velocity in time. What I've heard is that the change-up has flashed far better potential than the breaking ball (pretty sure slider, but don't quote me on that). The breaking ball has potential, but he's had trouble locating it at times. It's his potential to add velocity that is why a lot of us have him as our top lefty arm with starting potential.

 

Who is Santana?

 

All I've got on Paulino is that he can run his fastball up there in the mid-90's.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Alexander Santana. I have no idea who he is either, but CR threw out the name.