Cubs interested in Jermaine Dye?

[Rob]

Actually, I'd still rather have Murton.

 

Thank god you're not our gm. Every other team in the league passes on a guy but people on this board still think hes great. :banghead:

 

At anyrate, Dye would be great at the right price, there is a very good chance that Lee and or Soriano miss some time this year and the platoon with Fukudome would probably very productive. I would like this move

 

I didn't say I wanted Murton and I certainly didn't say he was great. All I said was I wanted him more than Dye...

 

Jermaine Dye has been below replacement level two of the last three seasons. If you aren't aware, replacement level is by definition those AAAA guys like Matt Murton who, by the way, only cost the league minimum.

 

If I thought Dye would only act as Fukudome's platoon partner in RF, he might be worth it. But it's pretty obvious he'd get too much playing time and he simply isn't worth the marginal cost for a player who isn't any better than a couple dozen guys we could bring in on a minor league deal.

 

How can a guy that OPSs over .800 be considered below replacement level? Perhaps his defense is Jake Fox-like? I can't imagine that many teams have AAAA guys just sitting around in the minors that are capable of putting up .800 OPS over the course of a season.

 

Also, its hard to argue that Dye would be much more than a platoon partner in RF without significant injuries.

 

That .800 OPS is slugging heavy and OBP light while being in a very good hitters ballpark. In years like 2007 and 2009, he's only very barely above average with the bat (3-5 runs). That's while he's consistently 20 runs below average in the field.

[Careless]

Every time I see him I think of his leg break. Not getting past that visual.

[AlwaysaCub]

Dye will probably end up making more than he should given his expected production. However, and let's be serious, between PT due to the injury risks in DLee, Soriano, Byrd, and Fukudome coupled with the 1-2 starts a week and pinch-hitting opportunities he'll naturally receive as a bench player, Dye would get something in the neighborhood of 400 PA for the Cubs in 2010. I'm saying that we have to look at him signing as a quasi-regular LF/RF/1B/DH and otherwise the first bat off the bench. We could do much worse filling that role.

[Rob]

Dye will probably end up making more than he should given his expected production. However, and let's be serious, between PT due to the injury risks in DLee, Soriano, Byrd, and Fukudome coupled with the 1-2 starts a week and pinch-hitting opportunities he'll naturally receive as a bench player, Dye would get something in the neighborhood of 400 PA for the Cubs in 2010. I'm saying that we have to look at him signing as a quasi-regular LF/RF/1B/DH and otherwise the first bat off the bench. We could do much worse filling that role.

 

Hoff is a perfectly adequate fill-in for Lee, and Fuld is actually better than Dye as a backup at any of the OF positions, especially when facing a righty.