Marmol: Cubs going after Pedro?

[CubbieBum]

And you are right ace and No. 5 pitcher aren't technical positions but they do factor into free agent SP's decisions. Saying pitchers don't want to be the ace or don't care if they are the last SP on the depth chart thus the one normally scratched or have their days of rest messed with is naive the first time you say it and stupid the second time. Pitchers do make decisions based on where they will be in the rotation. Some are looking to be the top dog who get the ball in the biggest games and some are looking to not be the bottom guy.

 

The fact that someone is the #1 pitcher in a rotation doesn't necessarily guarantee that he will be in the biggest games. With injuries and off days, it's impossible to make that happen all the time. Where egos might come into play more would be the postseason rotation.

 

And I will bet that money is a much, much, much bigger factor into a free agent's decision than where they are in the rotation.

 

1. Of course it doesn't guarantee they pitch in the bigger games but teams will sometimes mess with the No. 5 starter's rest so the ace can go in a big series. Also I said it is mostly about the postseason rotation.

 

2. As I said, in Pedro's case money is not a big factor. His case is rare. He has already made load so of money and showed this season he will take a small contract to go to a contender. Most FA's obviously take money first or at least factor in heavily. Pedro will probably be looking for 1-teams winning likelihood, 2-position in rotation, 3-money.

 

I doubt where a pitcher is in a postseason rotation is a huge factor into where they are going to sign.

 

As far as Pedro, I think he's more focused on having a guaranteed spot in someone's rotation, regardless of whether it's the first or fifth spot. And to say that money isn't a big factor for Pedro is, to use your word, naive. No one was giving him the $5 million he wanted last season, so he sat out a couple months. If he thinks he's worth $3 million to someone this season, he's not going to settle for $1 million.

 

He will if its a team he thinks he can win with. He didn't come back for the money. He came back to win (both a WS and prove he can still win games as a pitcher). If the Giants offer 5 million and the Phillies offer 1 million I'm pretty sure he will go to the Phillies.

[fromthestretch]

And you are right ace and No. 5 pitcher aren't technical positions but they do factor into free agent SP's decisions. Saying pitchers don't want to be the ace or don't care if they are the last SP on the depth chart thus the one normally scratched or have their days of rest messed with is naive the first time you say it and stupid the second time. Pitchers do make decisions based on where they will be in the rotation. Some are looking to be the top dog who get the ball in the biggest games and some are looking to not be the bottom guy.

 

The fact that someone is the #1 pitcher in a rotation doesn't necessarily guarantee that he will be in the biggest games. With injuries and off days, it's impossible to make that happen all the time. Where egos might come into play more would be the postseason rotation.

 

And I will bet that money is a much, much, much bigger factor into a free agent's decision than where they are in the rotation.

 

1. Of course it doesn't guarantee they pitch in the bigger games but teams will sometimes mess with the No. 5 starter's rest so the ace can go in a big series. Also I said it is mostly about the postseason rotation.

 

2. As I said, in Pedro's case money is not a big factor. His case is rare. He has already made load so of money and showed this season he will take a small contract to go to a contender. Most FA's obviously take money first or at least factor in heavily. Pedro will probably be looking for 1-teams winning likelihood, 2-position in rotation, 3-money.

 

I doubt where a pitcher is in a postseason rotation is a huge factor into where they are going to sign.

 

As far as Pedro, I think he's more focused on having a guaranteed spot in someone's rotation, regardless of whether it's the first or fifth spot. And to say that money isn't a big factor for Pedro is, to use your word, naive. No one was giving him the $5 million he wanted last season, so he sat out a couple months. If he thinks he's worth $3 million to someone this season, he's not going to settle for $1 million.

 

He will if its a team he thinks he can win with. He didn't come back for the money. He came back to win (both a WS and prove he can still win games as a pitcher). If the Giants offer 5 million and the Phillies offer 1 million I'm pretty sure he will go to the Phillies.

 

You're completely ignoring the fact that he sat out for half the season until a team surfaced that had both a chance to win and came close to meeting his salary demands. His salary with the Phillies wasn't far off his original demands. It was simply prorated plus some additional bonuses.

[CubbieBum]

 

You're completely ignoring the fact that he sat out for half the season until a team surfaced that had both a chance to win and came close to meeting his salary demands. His salary with the Phillies wasn't far off his original demands. It was simply prorated plus some additional bonuses.

 

And I would bet some mediocre to bad team offered him more money at some point and he chose to sit out rather than go to a team he wouldn't have the chance to get to the WS with.

[Sosa21MVP]

It sounds like Marmol said he would like to see the Cubs sign Pedro, not that the Cubs intend to sign him.

[fromthestretch]

 

You're completely ignoring the fact that he sat out for half the season until a team surfaced that had both a chance to win and came close to meeting his salary demands. His salary with the Phillies wasn't far off his original demands. It was simply prorated plus some additional bonuses.

 

And I would bet some mediocre to bad team offered him more money at some point and he chose to sit out rather than go to a team he wouldn't have the chance to get to the WS with.

 

And that is quite possible. However, I never said it was just about the money. I've acknowledged the fact that he also wants to play for a winner. I think both of those are the two main factors for him. I don't think he'd sign with a winner for much less than he feels he's worth, just like he won't sign with a crappy team that might offer him what he's asking for (or more). I also don't think he gives a rat's behind where he is in the rotation, so long as he is in the rotation.