Is Joe Morgan Right? Re:Hendry

[dew1679666265]

Me too but sadly im really beginning to think he is one of those athletes who gets hurt whenever he doesn't feel like playing but doesn't really care because he will still gets paid. He does not deserve to wear the number he wears either in my opinion.

 

I don't agree with that. Bradley hasn't shown anything to me that makes me think he doesn't care and if he's not hitting because he doesn't care, I have to ask why he hit so well the past few years.

[CUBZ99]

Yeah, I was a big Bradley fan even with the injuries. I finally gave up on him last year, and I was more interested in the Cubs getting someone who didn't get hurt so much. Rawaction roped me back in on Bradley. I'm regretting it now. Especially watching Ibanez crush balls all over Pennsylvania.

 

As much as I liked Bradley's production potential, his injuries were too much for me. I wasn't a big Ibanez fan either, though.

 

I wanted Dunn.

 

who completely destroys the ball at Wrigley Field, i havent seen many players hit home runs as far as he can

 

seriously they sounded the sirens once and evacuated he hit them so far

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odk0k1Updok

 

 

yes i know, it was against houston but i just had to

 

The only concern I had about Dunn was his defense, but I felt like if Bradley missed his usual amount of time (60+ games) that Dunn would be better for the duration than whoever went out to right field when Bradley wasn't there.

 

I still really want Bradley to prove me wrong, though.

 

Bradley is a walking injury. He reminds me of Rondell White. Hopefully, if he continues at this pace he won't reach the conditions for his final year to kick in.

[17 Seconds]

Me too but sadly im really beginning to think he is one of those athletes who gets hurt whenever he doesn't feel like playing but doesn't really care because he will still gets paid. He does not deserve to wear the number he wears either in my opinion.

 

I don't agree with that. Bradley hasn't shown anything to me that makes me think he doesn't care and if he's not hitting because he doesn't care, I have to ask why he hit so well the past few years.

 

Mostly because of Arlington

[chasinf5s]

Me too but sadly im really beginning to think he is one of those athletes who gets hurt whenever he doesn't feel like playing but doesn't really care because he will still gets paid. He does not deserve to wear the number he wears either in my opinion.

 

I don't agree with that. Bradley hasn't shown anything to me that makes me think he doesn't care and if he's not hitting because he doesn't care, I have to ask why he hit so well the past few years.

 

ive been really skeptical after reading this, i dont want to believe it but i cant look at what he has done and make myself believe otherwise

 

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/story/1246127.html

[dew1679666265]

Bradley is a walking injury. He reminds me of Rondell White. Hopefully, if he continues at this pace he won't reach the conditions for his final year to kick in.

 

Bradley's option for 2011 vests if he plays 75 games this year. He's at 38 right now.

 

The likelihood is still that he reaches it, I'd say. If he doesn't, it won't bode well for the overall offensive production.

[dew1679666265]

Me too but sadly im really beginning to think he is one of those athletes who gets hurt whenever he doesn't feel like playing but doesn't really care because he will still gets paid. He does not deserve to wear the number he wears either in my opinion.

 

I don't agree with that. Bradley hasn't shown anything to me that makes me think he doesn't care and if he's not hitting because he doesn't care, I have to ask why he hit so well the past few years.

 

Mostly because of Arlington

 

Without getting into another debate on Bradley's production potential, he's had OPS+s over .900 outside of Arlington. .923 in Cleveland and .947 between Oakland and San Diego. He can do it, and the wind blowing out of Wrigley in the summer can only help.

[17 Seconds]

Which is why it's comical when people defended the Bradley signing by saying "well it's only 30 mil guaranteed if he stays healthy."

 

yeah, not really.

[17 Seconds]

Me too but sadly im really beginning to think he is one of those athletes who gets hurt whenever he doesn't feel like playing but doesn't really care because he will still gets paid. He does not deserve to wear the number he wears either in my opinion.

 

I don't agree with that. Bradley hasn't shown anything to me that makes me think he doesn't care and if he's not hitting because he doesn't care, I have to ask why he hit so well the past few years.

 

Mostly because of Arlington

 

Without getting into another debate on Bradley's production potential, he's had OPS+s over .900 outside of Arlington. .923 in Cleveland and .947 between Oakland and San Diego. He can do it, and the wind blowing out of Wrigley in the summer can only help.

 

i never said he couldn't do it. i said arlington is the main reason his stats were so juiced up last year. he had like an .870 OPS on the road. not saying that's bad or anything.

[dew1679666265]

Me too but sadly im really beginning to think he is one of those athletes who gets hurt whenever he doesn't feel like playing but doesn't really care because he will still gets paid. He does not deserve to wear the number he wears either in my opinion.

 

I don't agree with that. Bradley hasn't shown anything to me that makes me think he doesn't care and if he's not hitting because he doesn't care, I have to ask why he hit so well the past few years.

 

ive been really skeptical after reading this, i dont want to believe it but i cant look at what he has done and make myself believe otherwise

 

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/story/1246127.html

 

If you take the negative out of those comments, I think you have to take the positive as well. He did say he tends to sit out more often with less-than-major injuries, but he also said he was fully committed heading into his time with the Cubs. Going off that story, he indicates he does care this season because we made a long-term commitment.

[chasinf5s]

Me too but sadly im really beginning to think he is one of those athletes who gets hurt whenever he doesn't feel like playing but doesn't really care because he will still gets paid. He does not deserve to wear the number he wears either in my opinion.

 

I don't agree with that. Bradley hasn't shown anything to me that makes me think he doesn't care and if he's not hitting because he doesn't care, I have to ask why he hit so well the past few years.

 

Mostly because of Arlington

 

Without getting into another debate on Bradley's production potential, he's had OPS+s over .900 outside of Arlington. .923 in Cleveland and .947 between Oakland and San Diego. He can do it, and the wind blowing out of Wrigley in the summer can only help.

 

Sure he can but he has to actually play

[chasinf5s]

Me too but sadly im really beginning to think he is one of those athletes who gets hurt whenever he doesn't feel like playing but doesn't really care because he will still gets paid. He does not deserve to wear the number he wears either in my opinion.

 

I don't agree with that. Bradley hasn't shown anything to me that makes me think he doesn't care and if he's not hitting because he doesn't care, I have to ask why he hit so well the past few years.

 

ive been really skeptical after reading this, i dont want to believe it but i cant look at what he has done and make myself believe otherwise

 

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/story/1246127.html

 

If you take the negative out of those comments, I think you have to take the positive as well. He did say he tends to sit out more often with less-than-major injuries, but he also said he was fully committed heading into his time with the Cubs. Going off that story, he indicates he does care this season because we made a long-term commitment.

 

What is he supposed to say? Now i can really slack off because i got my pay day?

 

i dont know, maybe its the normal person point of view but i still have to go to work where i have to lift crap all day eventhough my right shoulder needs surgery.

Edited June 3, 2009 by chasinf5s

[dew1679666265]

Me too but sadly im really beginning to think he is one of those athletes who gets hurt whenever he doesn't feel like playing but doesn't really care because he will still gets paid. He does not deserve to wear the number he wears either in my opinion.

 

I don't agree with that. Bradley hasn't shown anything to me that makes me think he doesn't care and if he's not hitting because he doesn't care, I have to ask why he hit so well the past few years.

 

Mostly because of Arlington

 

Without getting into another debate on Bradley's production potential, he's had OPS+s over .900 outside of Arlington. .923 in Cleveland and .947 between Oakland and San Diego. He can do it, and the wind blowing out of Wrigley in the summer can only help.

 

i never said he couldn't do it. i said arlington is the main reason his stats were so juiced up last year. he had like an .870 OPS on the road. not saying that's bad or anything.

 

I see now. If anything, Wrigley should move closer to Arlington as a hitter friendly park once the wind starts blowing out more consistently.

[dew1679666265]

Me too but sadly im really beginning to think he is one of those athletes who gets hurt whenever he doesn't feel like playing but doesn't really care because he will still gets paid. He does not deserve to wear the number he wears either in my opinion.

 

I don't agree with that. Bradley hasn't shown anything to me that makes me think he doesn't care and if he's not hitting because he doesn't care, I have to ask why he hit so well the past few years.

 

Mostly because of Arlington

 

Without getting into another debate on Bradley's production potential, he's had OPS+s over .900 outside of Arlington. .923 in Cleveland and .947 between Oakland and San Diego. He can do it, and the wind blowing out of Wrigley in the summer can only help.

 

Sure he can but he has to actually play

 

And that's what I've said is my main concern with him. The production ought to be there if he's healthy. Whether he's healthy or not is anyone's guess.

[dew1679666265]

What is he supposed to say? Now i can really slack off because i got my pay day?

 

He didn't have to bring up at all that he slacked off some last year. The fact that he brought it up and then said what he did about the Cubs leads me to believe he's sincere.

 

i dont know, maybe its the normal person point of view but i still have to go to work where i have to lift crap all day eventhough my right shoulder needs surgery.

 

I think it's more comparable to a person with sick days calling into work when they are legitimately sick but could still work if they had to.

[chasinf5s]

What is he supposed to say? Now i can really slack off because i got my pay day?

 

He didn't have to bring up at all that he slacked off some last year. The fact that he brought it up and then said what he did about the Cubs leads me to believe he's sincere.

 

i dont know, maybe its the normal person point of view but i still have to go to work where i have to lift crap all day eventhough my right shoulder needs surgery.

 

I think it's more comparable to a person with sick days calling into work when they are legitimately sick but could still work if they had to.

 

I dont know, to me the cubs would have been better off with Adam Dunn. Bradley is much to fragile and or doesnt have the right character for this team. Sure he brings fire but he also brings that of someone who slacks off when he isint feeling great. Thats not what any team needs

[dew1679666265]

What is he supposed to say? Now i can really slack off because i got my pay day?

 

He didn't have to bring up at all that he slacked off some last year. The fact that he brought it up and then said what he did about the Cubs leads me to believe he's sincere.

 

i dont know, maybe its the normal person point of view but i still have to go to work where i have to lift crap all day eventhough my right shoulder needs surgery.

 

I think it's more comparable to a person with sick days calling into work when they are legitimately sick but could still work if they had to.

 

I dont know, to me the cubs would have been better off with Adam Dunn. Bradley is much to fragile and or doesnt have the right character for this team. Sure he brings fire but he also brings that of someone who slacks off when he isint feeling great. Thats not what any team needs

 

I think we'd have been better off with Dunn, but not because Bradley doesn't have the right character. Dunn's been accused of not caring in the past as well, keep in mind.

 

I don't put much stock in articles that insinuate a player doesn't care.

[loukycub]

all this on and on about the wind blowing out and bradley.

 

didn't the wind blow in more last year than out and isn't the percentage of time the wind blows out to in around 50-50 historically? it is about as likely the wind isn't going to blow in the rest of the season as it would out. if he can't perform when the wind is in, he shouldn't have been signed in the first place. right now, he just hasn't been performing period.

 

i really hate to say it but joe was right. in the quest to get more left handed for the playoffs (before the playoffs were even assured) jim traded away the key pieces of a 97 win team for one that may finish above .500, but only just. i would be more comfortable with a deadline deal/waver wire deal with last year's team to go get a left handed bat than i would completely overhauling something that wasn't broken and overreacting to a bad matchup in the playoffs.

[17 Seconds]

What is he supposed to say? Now i can really slack off because i got my pay day?

 

He didn't have to bring up at all that he slacked off some last year. The fact that he brought it up and then said what he did about the Cubs leads me to believe he's sincere.

 

i dont know, maybe its the normal person point of view but i still have to go to work where i have to lift crap all day eventhough my right shoulder needs surgery.

 

I think it's more comparable to a person with sick days calling into work when they are legitimately sick but could still work if they had to.

 

I dont know, to me the cubs would have been better off with Adam Dunn. Bradley is much to fragile and or doesnt have the right character for this team. Sure he brings fire but he also brings that of someone who slacks off when he isint feeling great. Thats not what any team needs

 

Dunn's been accused of not caring in the past as well, keep in mind.

 

 

lol are people still acting like that BS remark from ricciardi actually meant something? jesus

 

not to mention that the "so and so doesn't really care about winning" argument is dumb, especially when talking about proven players. yeah, dunn doesn't care all the way to a .900 OPS for 150+ games every season

[dew1679666265]

lol are people still acting like that BS remark from ricciardi actually meant something? jesus

 

not to mention that the "so and so doesn't really care about winning" argument is dumb, especially when talking about proven players. yeah, dunn doesn't care all the way to a .900 OPS for 150+ games every season

 

You might have misread the conversation. I was disagreeing with chasin that Bradley didn't care because a couple of articles gave that idea.

 

People have misconceptions of athletes all the time. Some have the misconception that Dunn doesn't care, some have it that Bradley doesn't care. Neither are right, in my opinion.

[17 Seconds]

But I'm saying that I don't think there is any miconception about Dunn. The only time I've ever heard anything about him not wanting to win was when Ricciardi said it.

[dew1679666265]

But I'm saying that I don't think there is any miconception about Dunn. The only time I've ever heard anything about him not wanting to win was when Ricciardi said it.

 

I've heard it in other places as well, it seems especially prevalent among fans who hate how he either walks, ks or homers.

[Larry Horse]

But I'm saying that I don't think there is any miconception about Dunn. The only time I've ever heard anything about him not wanting to win was when Ricciardi said it.

 

I've heard it in other places as well, it seems especially prevalent among fans who hate how he either walks, ks or homers.

 

But he is on the field, which helps.

[dew1679666265]

But I'm saying that I don't think there is any miconception about Dunn. The only time I've ever heard anything about him not wanting to win was when Ricciardi said it.

 

I've heard it in other places as well, it seems especially prevalent among fans who hate how he either walks, ks or homers.

 

But he is on the field, which helps.

 

And that's why I wanted him in the offseason.

[Hawk4Hall]

Dunn basically stated he wanted to play for the Cubs and Hendry blew it off. Yes he strikes out a ton and is terrible in the field, but he RAKES in Wrigley. He would have been the power bat the Cubs needed in right. Sure he could have gotten here are stunk, but at least he'd hit for power. Right now the Cubs offense is a mess.

 

Country strong as Brenley likes to say.

[Little Slide Rooter]

In the next few years, we'll see the real Jim Hendry. Hes had the tribunes money backing him to offer massive contracts to players, but take that money away, and we'll see what hes capable of. Hes pulled 3 rabbits out of hats in Aramis, Nomar, and Harden, aquiring al 3 for next to nothing. Ill give him that. I dont know how much of a pay roll Ricketts will be able to afford, but it wont be the Trib.

 

Will he be willing to take chances on bargain binners like Josh Hamilton, Carlos Quentin, and Russell Branyan?