Edmonds adjustments lead to big day at plate?

[satxcubfan]

That was only when he was a member of the Cardinals.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Edmonds is looking good his past two games. Hopefully he can keep it up.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

Went to the game today. It's still so weird to see him in the Cubs pinstripes. And it's even weirder to hear the fans actually cheering for him.

[Soul]

If he keeps up what he's been doing lately, I won't mind. Won't mind at all.

[TheDude]

Edmonds' Cubs numbers are now : .258 /.303 /.484 /.787, which is quite a bit more power than Johnson.

 

If the CF platoon can put up at least a .750 ops, it'll be respectable.

[Brett]

Two games does not a season make. His swing still looks incredibly slow to me. Here's hoping he's turning things around, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Has he ever had a quick bat though? It's probably just me, but his swing looks very similar to his swing when he was hitting with STL. He has looked a bit slow reacting to some fastballs, but I don't think that's all in the swing for him.

[NonProfitCow]

Has he ever had a quick bat though? It's probably just me, but his swing looks very similar to his swing when he was hitting with STL. He has looked a bit slow reacting to some fastballs, but I don't think that's all in the swing for him.

 

It was deceptively quick in his prime. It looked slower because it was long, but he had very good bat speed.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Has he ever had a quick bat though? It's probably just me, but his swing looks very similar to his swing when he was hitting with STL. He has looked a bit slow reacting to some fastballs, but I don't think that's all in the swing for him.

 

It was deceptively quick in his prime. It looked slower because it was long, but he had very good bat speed.

 

Ok, that makes sense then. I've always noticed that he had a long, loopy-like swing. Hopefully these two games were more than a flash in the pan and he's actually coming back to how he was a few years ago. I'm not holding my breath, but I'm hoping. Like someone said earlier, if we could get at least a .750 OPS from our 2 platooning CFs, we'll be fine.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'm less worried about the offense we get from CF than the defense. Right now, our CF defense is the only glaring weakness in the D, and that's a big one.

[bring stone back]

I'm less worried about the offense we get from CF than the defense. Right now, our CF defense is the only glaring weakness in the D, and that's a big one.

 

Edmonds' defense is fine. He/Johnson can't cover the ground of Pie but they're fine.

 

Only glaring weakness in the defense? Is Soriano so bad defensively we just don't even count him as a defender then? Is he just neutral out there - sometimes helping the Cubs and sometimes helping the other team's offense?

[TruffleShuffle]

I'm less worried about the offense we get from CF than the defense. Right now, our CF defense is the only glaring weakness in the D, and that's a big one.

 

Edmonds' defense is fine. He/Johnson can't cover the ground of Pie but they're fine.

 

Only glaring weakness in the defense? Is Soriano so bad defensively we just don't even count him as a defender then? Is he just neutral out there - sometimes helping the Cubs and sometimes helping the other team's offense?

 

edmonds' defense seems fine because he mostly catches the balls that he gets to. the problem is that he is so slow that he can't get to much. he's one of the worst-fielding centerfielders in the game at this point in his career.

[bring stone back]

I'm less worried about the offense we get from CF than the defense. Right now, our CF defense is the only glaring weakness in the D, and that's a big one.

 

Edmonds' defense is fine. He/Johnson can't cover the ground of Pie but they're fine.

 

Only glaring weakness in the defense? Is Soriano so bad defensively we just don't even count him as a defender then? Is he just neutral out there - sometimes helping the Cubs and sometimes helping the other team's offense?

 

edmonds' defense seems fine because he mostly catches the balls that he gets to. the problem is that he is so slow that he can't get to much. he's one of the worst-fielding centerfielders in the game at this point in his career.

 

The defensive play of a platoon center fielder is/should be the least of the Cubs' concerns right now. No, he doesn't cover a lot of ground but he has a pretty live arm yet, is smart and positions himself well. He is certainly not a defensive problem by any means.

 

Edmonds has never been a burner but he allegedly worked on his speed all offseason and is faster than he's been in the last 3-4 years.

[TruffleShuffle]

ok, i guess all the defensive metrics are out to lunch then

[Vanilla Ice]

I'm less worried about the offense we get from CF than the defense. Right now, our CF defense is the only glaring weakness in the D, and that's a big one.

 

Edmonds' defense is fine. He/Johnson can't cover the ground of Pie but they're fine.

 

Only glaring weakness in the defense? Is Soriano so bad defensively we just don't even count him as a defender then? Is he just neutral out there - sometimes helping the Cubs and sometimes helping the other team's offense?

 

edmonds' defense seems fine because he mostly catches the balls that he gets to. the problem is that he is so slow that he can't get to much. he's one of the worst-fielding centerfielders in the game at this point in his career.

 

The defensive play of a platoon center fielder is/should be the least of the Cubs' concerns right now. No, he doesn't cover a lot of ground but he has a pretty live arm yet, is smart and positions himself well. He is certainly not a defensive problem by any means.

 

Edmonds has never been a burner but he allegedly worked on his speed all offseason and is faster than he's been in the last 3-4 years.

lol

 

edmonds does not position himself well

[inari]

ok, i guess all the defensive metrics are out to lunch then

 

Watch the games!

[TruffleShuffle]

ok, i guess all the defensive metrics are out to lunch then

 

Watch the games!

 

awesome.

 

i watched today's game and saw a ball hit over his head for a double. pie probably makes that play without much difficulty.

[inari]

But... the gold gloves!

[bring stone back]

ok, i guess all the defensive metrics are out to lunch then

 

Watch the games!

 

awesome.

 

i watched today's game and saw a ball hit over his head for a double. pie probably makes that play without much difficulty.

 

Yeah, he probably would have. If only he could hit a baseball in major league competition...we might be on to something then.

[bring stone back]

ok, i guess all the defensive metrics are out to lunch then

 

You can't look at every baseball statistic in a vacuum. Do they factor in a great rightfielder he's playing next to and a horrible left fielder he's playing next to who admittedly still isn't playing 100%? Do you or the defensive metrics know the scouting report against an opposing hitter, the wind, the situation, how the pitcher is going to approach a hitter in a particular at bat?

 

Yes, statistics are nice and give you a good barometer but there are many other factors to consider. Again, considering the guy is a platoon player I really don't think it's much to complain about.

[Vanilla Ice]

ok, i guess all the defensive metrics are out to lunch then

 

You can't look at every baseball statistic in a vacuum. Do they factor in a great rightfielder he's playing next to and a horrible left fielder he's playing next to who admittedly still isn't playing 100%? Do you or the defensive metrics know the scouting report against an opposing hitter, the wind, the situation, how the pitcher is going to approach a hitter in a particular at bat?

 

Yes, statistics are nice and give you a good barometer but there are many other factors to consider. Again, considering the guy is a platoon player I really don't think it's much to complain about.

yea truffle

 

computers can't watch the games

[Tyrant]

I thought gay Edmonds jokes were fine, I've been reading them here for years.

 

No. This is an Internet message board. The standards for behavior and civility here should be of the highest caliber.

[David]

On Sunday, it was Jim Edmonds making the most of his second start in three days. The veteran center fielder enhanced his standing with his second multihit game, including an RBI double, triple and RBI walk.

 

''It's getting there,'' he said of his swing after hitting his first triple in a year. ''I've been working with [hitting coach] Gerald [Perry] and found something [standing] wider. I knew something was there and just had to find it. I'm a line-drive hitter, and keeping the ball out of the air is more my game. This is supposed to be what it feels like.''

 

Edmonds said only two days ago he still felt like a St. Louis Cardinal at times in the outfield, but that is changing.

 

''I do in here,'' he said of feeling like a Cub. ''The guys around here and the atmosphere in here is unbelievable, and we're having a great time. The team is what matters. We have to stay on an even keel.''

 

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/982329,CST-SPT-cub02.article

[bring stone back]

ok, i guess all the defensive metrics are out to lunch then

 

You can't look at every baseball statistic in a vacuum. Do they factor in a great rightfielder he's playing next to and a horrible left fielder he's playing next to who admittedly still isn't playing 100%? Do you or the defensive metrics know the scouting report against an opposing hitter, the wind, the situation, how the pitcher is going to approach a hitter in a particular at bat?

 

Yes, statistics are nice and give you a good barometer but there are many other factors to consider. Again, considering the guy is a platoon player I really don't think it's much to complain about.

yea truffle

 

computers can't watch the games

 

Yeah, because that is exactly what I said, too. All I said was you can not take every baseball statistic and look at in a vacuum.

 

Watching games is a bad thing then? One can't gain any sort of insight or knowledge from actually watching games?

 

It's like having a discussion with a 4 year old...

[Ding Dong Johnson]

On Sunday, it was Jim Edmonds making the most of his second start in three days. The veteran center fielder enhanced his standing with his second multihit game, including an RBI double, triple and RBI walk.

 

''It's getting there,'' he said of his swing after hitting his first triple in a year. ''I've been working with [hitting coach] Gerald [Perry] and found something [standing] wider. I knew something was there and just had to find it. I'm a line-drive hitter, and keeping the ball out of the air is more my game. This is supposed to be what it feels like.''

 

Edmonds said only two days ago he still felt like a St. Louis Cardinal at times in the outfield, but that is changing.

 

''I do in here,'' he said of feeling like a Cub. ''The guys around here and the atmosphere in here is unbelievable, and we're having a great time. The team is what matters. We have to stay on an even keel.''

 

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/982329,CST-SPT-cub02.article

that was the key to his "new" stance -- standing wider and eliminating the stride. I doubt we're going to see his 2004 numbers, but he's still much better than his 08 Padres numbers