Pettitte declines $16 million option

[Mephistopheles]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

[Yanksfan1523]

[qu[/color]ote="Mephistopheles"]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

So how did the 98 Yankees win?? O'neill, Jeter, Martinez, Posada, Bernie, Knoblauch-- What would you call it??

[imb]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

So how did the 98 Yankees win?? O'neill, Jeter, Martinez, Posada, Bernie, Knoblauch-- What would you call it??

 

Those guys all hit really well that year. Awesome offense, decent pitching and a great bullpen.

 

Edit

 

and when i say decent pitching, i mean that they had the lowest ERA in the AL. By almost half a run.

 

The offense was also fourth in the league in HR and first in runs. Acting like it was a bunch of no names banding together to claw out a championship is totally wrong.

[Yanksfan1523]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

So how did the 98 Yankees win?? O'neill, Jeter, Martinez, Posada, Bernie, Knoblauch-- What would you call it??

 

Those guys all hit really well that year. Awesome offense, decent pitching and a great bullpen.

 

Edit

 

and when i say decent pitching, i mean that they had the lowest ERA in the AL. By almost half a run.

 

The offense was also fourth in the league in HR and first in runs. Acting like it was a bunch of no names banding together to claw out a championship is totally wrong.

 

I never said it was a bunch of no names. I was saying that it was a great team! But there was no A-Rod type.

[imb]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

So how did the 98 Yankees win?? O'neill, Jeter, Martinez, Posada, Bernie, Knoblauch-- What would you call it??

 

Those guys all hit really well that year. Awesome offense, decent pitching and a great bullpen.

 

Edit

 

and when i say decent pitching, i mean that they had the lowest ERA in the AL. By almost half a run.

 

The offense was also fourth in the league in HR and first in runs. Acting like it was a bunch of no names banding together to claw out a championship is totally wrong.

 

I never said it was a bunch of no names. I was saying that it was a great team! But there was no A-Rod type.

 

2007 ARod OPS+ 177

 

1998 Bernie Williams OPS+ 160

 

2007 Yankees team OPS+ 118

 

1998 Yankees team OPS+ 117

 

The 2007 Yankees allowed almost a full run per game (0.75) more than the 1998 version. That's why you weren't as good. Not because ARod is "only interested in money".

[Yanksfan1523]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

So how did the 98 Yankees win?? O'neill, Jeter, Martinez, Posada, Bernie, Knoblauch-- What would you call it??

 

Those guys all hit really well that year. Awesome offense, decent pitching and a great bullpen.

 

Edit

 

and when i say decent pitching, i mean that they had the lowest ERA in the AL. By almost half a run.

 

The offense was also fourth in the league in HR and first in runs. Acting like it was a bunch of no names banding together to claw out a championship is totally wrong.

 

I never said it was a bunch of no names. I was saying that it was a great team! But there was no A-Rod type.

 

2007 ARod OPS+ 177

 

1998 Bernie Williams OPS+ 160

 

2007 Yankees team OPS+ 118

 

1998 Yankees team OPS+ 117

 

The 2007 Yankees allowed almost a full run per game (0.75) more than the 1998 version. That's why you weren't as good. Not because ARod is "only interested in money".

 

EXACTLY MY POINT!!! How is A-rod and his 30 million going to help our pitching?? The Yankees have had mediocre pitching for years. I would much prefer to spend that 30 million on pitching!! We don't need the offense.

[imb]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

So how did the 98 Yankees win?? O'neill, Jeter, Martinez, Posada, Bernie, Knoblauch-- What would you call it??

 

Those guys all hit really well that year. Awesome offense, decent pitching and a great bullpen.

 

Edit

 

and when i say decent pitching, i mean that they had the lowest ERA in the AL. By almost half a run.

 

The offense was also fourth in the league in HR and first in runs. Acting like it was a bunch of no names banding together to claw out a championship is totally wrong.

 

I never said it was a bunch of no names. I was saying that it was a great team! But there was no A-Rod type.

 

2007 ARod OPS+ 177

 

1998 Bernie Williams OPS+ 160

 

2007 Yankees team OPS+ 118

 

1998 Yankees team OPS+ 117

 

The 2007 Yankees allowed almost a full run per game (0.75) more than the 1998 version. That's why you weren't as good. Not because ARod is "only interested in money".

 

EXACTLY MY POINT!!! How is A-rod and his 30 million going to help our pitching?? The Yankees have had mediocre pitching for years. I would much prefer to spend that 30 million on pitching!! We don't need the offense.

 

ARod is worth what, 80 more runs than Betemit (total estimate)? With this FA pitching market, it's going to be tough to spread out $30 million dollars in a way to make up that many runs.

[inari]

How is A-Rod making your pitching worse? You have plenty of money. Get pitching and keep the best hitter in baseball.

[Yanksfan1523]

How is A-Rod making your pitching worse? You have plenty of money. Get pitching and keep the best hitter in baseball.

 

And listen to the bitching about a 250 million dollar payroll?? As a true fan, I want to see the payroll lowered and some talent developed!

[Yanksfan1523]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

So how did the 98 Yankees win?? O'neill, Jeter, Martinez, Posada, Bernie, Knoblauch-- What would you call it??

 

Those guys all hit really well that year. Awesome offense, decent pitching and a great bullpen.

 

Edit

 

and when i say decent pitching, i mean that they had the lowest ERA in the AL. By almost half a run.

 

The offense was also fourth in the league in HR and first in runs. Acting like it was a bunch of no names banding together to claw out a championship is totally wrong.

 

I never said it was a bunch of no names. I was saying that it was a great team! But there was no A-Rod type.

 

2007 ARod OPS+ 177

 

1998 Bernie Williams OPS+ 160

 

2007 Yankees team OPS+ 118

 

1998 Yankees team OPS+ 117

 

The 2007 Yankees allowed almost a full run per game (0.75) more than the 1998 version. That's why you weren't as good. Not because ARod is "only interested in money".

 

EXACTLY MY POINT!!! How is A-rod and his 30 million going to help our pitching?? The Yankees have had mediocre pitching for years. I would much prefer to spend that 30 million on pitching!! We don't need the offense.

 

ARod is worth what, 80 more runs than Betemit (total estimate)? With this FA pitching market, it's going to be tough to spread out $30 million dollars in a way to make up that many runs.

 

The Yankees offense will be fine. I am tired of hearing how we will have no offense if he leaves! Yes his stats are IMPOSSIBLE to replace, but didn't we have a good offense in 2003? Can't we have offense without him? is everyone convinced there is no life after A-Rod? Didn't SWEET LOU guide the A-Rod less Mariners to 119 wins and the playoffs the YEAR AFTER he left??

[imb]

How is A-Rod making your pitching worse? You have plenty of money. Get pitching and keep the best hitter in baseball.

 

And listen to the bitching about a 250 million dollar payroll?? As a true fan, I want to see the payroll lowered and some talent developed!

 

ARod's money is not going to be put into the draft or anything like that, it's going to go right back into the FA market.

 

He didn't hinder your youth development, at all.

[Guest]

How is A-Rod making your pitching worse? You have plenty of money. Get pitching and keep the best hitter in baseball.

 

And listen to the bitching about a 250 million dollar payroll?? As a true fan, I want to see the payroll lowered and some talent developed!

 

Developing talent isn't mutually exclusive to a high payroll.

 

Boston and the Yanks have the highest payrolls in baseball and still do a good job in the draft and Latin America.

[Yanksfan1523]

How is A-Rod making your pitching worse? You have plenty of money. Get pitching and keep the best hitter in baseball.

 

And listen to the bitching about a 250 million dollar payroll?? As a true fan, I want to see the payroll lowered and some talent developed!

 

ARod's money is not going to be put into the draft or anything like that, it's going to go right back into the FA market.

 

He didn't hinder your youth development, at all.

 

The money saved is what will allow the Yanks to go after Santana. I didn't say A-Rod hindered our youth, I said I wanted to see more youth. I am entitled to my opinion on A-rod. I will enjoy watching my team just as much without him as I did with him!!! So let someone else pay him!

[Mephistopheles]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

So how did the 98 Yankees win?? O'neill, Jeter, Martinez, Posada, Bernie, Knoblauch-- What would you call it??

 

Those guys all hit really well that year. Awesome offense, decent pitching and a great bullpen.

 

Edit

 

and when i say decent pitching, i mean that they had the lowest ERA in the AL. By almost half a run.

 

The offense was also fourth in the league in HR and first in runs. Acting like it was a bunch of no names banding together to claw out a championship is totally wrong.

 

I never said it was a bunch of no names. I was saying that it was a great team! But there was no A-Rod type.

 

 

you are missing the point completely.

[imb]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

So how did the 98 Yankees win?? O'neill, Jeter, Martinez, Posada, Bernie, Knoblauch-- What would you call it??

 

Those guys all hit really well that year. Awesome offense, decent pitching and a great bullpen.

 

Edit

 

and when i say decent pitching, i mean that they had the lowest ERA in the AL. By almost half a run.

 

The offense was also fourth in the league in HR and first in runs. Acting like it was a bunch of no names banding together to claw out a championship is totally wrong.

 

I never said it was a bunch of no names. I was saying that it was a great team! But there was no A-Rod type.

 

2007 ARod OPS+ 177

 

1998 Bernie Williams OPS+ 160

 

2007 Yankees team OPS+ 118

 

1998 Yankees team OPS+ 117

 

The 2007 Yankees allowed almost a full run per game (0.75) more than the 1998 version. That's why you weren't as good. Not because ARod is "only interested in money".

 

EXACTLY MY POINT!!! How is A-rod and his 30 million going to help our pitching?? The Yankees have had mediocre pitching for years. I would much prefer to spend that 30 million on pitching!! We don't need the offense.

 

ARod is worth what, 80 more runs than Betemit (total estimate)? With this FA pitching market, it's going to be tough to spread out $30 million dollars in a way to make up that many runs.

 

The Yankees offense will be fine. I am tired of hearing how we will have no offense if he leaves! Yes his stats are IMPOSSIBLE to replace, but didn't we have a good offense in 2003? Can't we have offense without him? is everyone convinced there is no life after A-Rod? Didn't SWEET LOU guide the A-Rod less Mariners to 119 wins and the playoffs the YEAR AFTER he left??

 

They had the best offense and the best pitching in the league in 2001.

 

The Yankees will definitely not have anywhere near that in 2008.

 

If you lose ARod and you lose Posada, you can expect every player on your roster not named Cano or Melky to hit worse than they did last year. I'm not saying that it's foolish to not resign ARod, because it's going to be a lot of money over a lot of years, but if he and Posada hit the road, you are going to have to replace well over 100 runs. And if the rest of your team continues to decline (they're all well over 30 at this point), that offense is going to take a hit.

[Mephistopheles]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

So how did the 98 Yankees win?? O'neill, Jeter, Martinez, Posada, Bernie, Knoblauch-- What would you call it??

 

Those guys all hit really well that year. Awesome offense, decent pitching and a great bullpen.

 

Edit

 

and when i say decent pitching, i mean that they had the lowest ERA in the AL. By almost half a run.

 

The offense was also fourth in the league in HR and first in runs. Acting like it was a bunch of no names banding together to claw out a championship is totally wrong.

 

I never said it was a bunch of no names. I was saying that it was a great team! But there was no A-Rod type.

 

2007 ARod OPS+ 177

 

1998 Bernie Williams OPS+ 160

 

2007 Yankees team OPS+ 118

 

1998 Yankees team OPS+ 117

 

The 2007 Yankees allowed almost a full run per game (0.75) more than the 1998 version. That's why you weren't as good. Not because ARod is "only interested in money".

 

EXACTLY MY POINT!!! How is A-rod and his 30 million going to help our pitching?? The Yankees have had mediocre pitching for years. I would much prefer to spend that 30 million on pitching!! We don't need the offense.

 

ARod is worth what, 80 more runs than Betemit (total estimate)? With this FA pitching market, it's going to be tough to spread out $30 million dollars in a way to make up that many runs.

 

The Yankees offense will be fine. I am tired of hearing how we will have no offense if he leaves! Yes his stats are IMPOSSIBLE to replace, but didn't we have a good offense in 2003? Can't we have offense without him? is everyone convinced there is no life after A-Rod? Didn't SWEET LOU guide the A-Rod less Mariners to 119 wins and the playoffs the YEAR AFTER he left??

 

 

I ran the math on a friend (Yankee fan) about this a couple weeks ago (various possibilities):

 

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[Yanksfan1523]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

So how did the 98 Yankees win?? O'neill, Jeter, Martinez, Posada, Bernie, Knoblauch-- What would you call it??

 

Those guys all hit really well that year. Awesome offense, decent pitching and a great bullpen.

 

Edit

 

and when i say decent pitching, i mean that they had the lowest ERA in the AL. By almost half a run.

 

The offense was also fourth in the league in HR and first in runs. Acting like it was a bunch of no names banding together to claw out a championship is totally wrong.

 

I never said it was a bunch of no names. I was saying that it was a great team! But there was no A-Rod type.

 

2007 ARod OPS+ 177

 

1998 Bernie Williams OPS+ 160

 

2007 Yankees team OPS+ 118

 

1998 Yankees team OPS+ 117

 

The 2007 Yankees allowed almost a full run per game (0.75) more than the 1998 version. That's why you weren't as good. Not because ARod is "only interested in money".

 

EXACTLY MY POINT!!! How is A-rod and his 30 million going to help our pitching?? The Yankees have had mediocre pitching for years. I would much prefer to spend that 30 million on pitching!! We don't need the offense.

 

ARod is worth what, 80 more runs than Betemit (total estimate)? With this FA pitching market, it's going to be tough to spread out $30 million dollars in a way to make up that many runs.

 

The Yankees offense will be fine. I am tired of hearing how we will have no offense if he leaves! Yes his stats are IMPOSSIBLE to replace, but didn't we have a good offense in 2003? Can't we have offense without him? is everyone convinced there is no life after A-Rod? Didn't SWEET LOU guide the A-Rod less Mariners to 119 wins and the playoffs the YEAR AFTER he left??

 

They had the best offense and the best pitching in the league in 2001.

 

The Yankees will definitely not have anywhere near that in 2008.

 

If you lose ARod and you lose Posada, you can expect every player on your roster not named Cano or Melky to hit worse than they did last year. I'm not saying that it's foolish to not resign ARod, because it's going to be a lot of money over a lot of years, but if he and Posada hit the road, you are going to have to replace well over 100 runs. And if the rest of your team continues to decline (they're all well over 30 at this point), that offense is going to take a hit.

 

I agree -- A HUGE HIT. But as a fan, I am willing to take it to get rid of more salary. Next year, Giambi, Farnsworth-LESS, Abreu all come off. I want to go back to the days when the Yankees developed young players AND spent money to get guys that know how to win.

[Guest]

Guys that know how to win? Can you explain that one to me?

[Yanksfan1523]

I admit the Yankees will be worse off without A-Rod next year, maybe even for two or three years!! But so what!! They will survive and make the playoffs in 2009 as our young players develop. And since the Yankees can keep their players, maybe we see another three-peat!

 

In closing, I know A-Rod is a great player! But he is not the only thing keeping the Yankees alive!!

[snoodmonger]

Guys that know how to win? Can you explain that one to me?

 

 

I'll try. If your OPS+ is over 170, chances are you know how to win. Wait a second, they're losing that guy. Nevermind.

[Yanksfan1523]

Guys that know how to win? Can you explain that one to me?

 

 

I'll try. If your OPS+ is over 170, chances are you know how to win. Wait a second, they're losing that guy. Nevermind.

 

Hey, he loves Lou!! Kick in and let the trib pay him!!

[imb]

What if ARod signs with the Red Sox, wins a few World Series and then becomes a free agent again. Would he know how to win? Would you want him back?

 

It makes no sense.

[Mephistopheles]

i'm pretty sure A-Rod did more than put fans in seats. What was his WARP3 again?

I don't want to take anything away from A-Rod's stats. He is a BEAST (except his RISP). My point is that the Yankees won without him, and save the 30 million for pitching!! This team won with Scott B at third and went to the series with Aaron F'in Boone. I feel it is time to go back to the winning ways of "THE TEAM" concept. 1998 Yankees, no 40 hr guys but were 125-50 (including playoffs)!!!

 

Do all Yankee fans think this way? It's utterly stupid to think that the 98 Yankees won because of the team concept. Come on.

So how did the 98 Yankees win?? O'neill, Jeter, Martinez, Posada, Bernie, Knoblauch-- What would you call it??

 

Those guys all hit really well that year. Awesome offense, decent pitching and a great bullpen.

 

Edit

 

and when i say decent pitching, i mean that they had the lowest ERA in the AL. By almost half a run.

 

The offense was also fourth in the league in HR and first in runs. Acting like it was a bunch of no names banding together to claw out a championship is totally wrong.

 

I never said it was a bunch of no names. I was saying that it was a great team! But there was no A-Rod type.

 

2007 ARod OPS+ 177

 

1998 Bernie Williams OPS+ 160

 

2007 Yankees team OPS+ 118

 

1998 Yankees team OPS+ 117

 

The 2007 Yankees allowed almost a full run per game (0.75) more than the 1998 version. That's why you weren't as good. Not because ARod is "only interested in money".

 

EXACTLY MY POINT!!! How is A-rod and his 30 million going to help our pitching?? The Yankees have had mediocre pitching for years. I would much prefer to spend that 30 million on pitching!! We don't need the offense.

 

ARod is worth what, 80 more runs than Betemit (total estimate)? With this FA pitching market, it's going to be tough to spread out $30 million dollars in a way to make up that many runs.

 

The Yankees offense will be fine. I am tired of hearing how we will have no offense if he leaves! Yes his stats are IMPOSSIBLE to replace, but didn't we have a good offense in 2003? Can't we have offense without him? is everyone convinced there is no life after A-Rod? Didn't SWEET LOU guide the A-Rod less Mariners to 119 wins and the playoffs the YEAR AFTER he left??

 

They had the best offense and the best pitching in the league in 2001.

 

The Yankees will definitely not have anywhere near that in 2008.

 

If you lose ARod and you lose Posada, you can expect every player on your roster not named Cano or Melky to hit worse than they did last year. I'm not saying that it's foolish to not resign ARod, because it's going to be a lot of money over a lot of years, but if he and Posada hit the road, you are going to have to replace well over 100 runs. And if the rest of your team continues to decline (they're all well over 30 at this point), that offense is going to take a hit.

 

I agree -- A HUGE HIT. But as a fan, I am willing to take it to get rid of more salary. Next year, Giambi, Farnsworth-LESS, Abreu all come off. I want to go back to the days when the Yankees developed young players AND spent money to get guys that know how to win.

 

Know how to win? This doesn't exist. Argue away prove me wrong

[Yanksfan1523]

What if ARod signs with the Red Sox, wins a few World Series and then becomes a free agent again. Would he know how to win? Would you want him back?

 

It makes no sense.

 

I would have prefered to keep Soriano. I was never thrilled about the trade.

 

And to answer your question, NO. I wouldn't want him back. And funny how Red Sox fans say that the best thing they ever did was NOT get A-Rod! Even going as far as to chant it after the Series.

 

Maybe you will get lucky and the Trib will go get him. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!!

[Guest]

Maybe you will get lucky and the Trib will go get him. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!!

 

After 99 years of crap, I think I'll try taking the best player in baseball on the Cubs.