Fantasy hoops keeper league

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oops sorry about this... i think i got the PM about the league when i was really drunk, and didn't feel like dealing with it then. After that I just forgot :oops:

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oops sorry about this... i think i got the PM about the league when i was really drunk, and didn't feel like dealing with it then. After that I just forgot :oops:

 

It's no problem. But we ended up replacing you, so I hope you didn't want to play again b/c it's too late now. Sorry.

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FUBAR

 

Well, we'll have to figure things out. IMB and I were at the draft, Dobson showed up after about 2-3 rounds. But Flames didn't do any preranking, Mark, Dobson, and Play Pie excluded all keepers, so they drafted "free" guys in the first 3 rounds when they should have been drafting their own keepers, so after 3 rounds, IMB and I started drafting keepers still on the board.

 

So we have to figure out where to go from here. We can scrap it all and redraft (but those that prerank have to do it right - make your keepers your top 3 picks and exclude everyone else's) or try to make trades to work things out. Right now Flames is loaded b/c he drafted everyone's keepers, whereas Mark and PlayPie didn't draft any of the top 25 or so guys. On the other hand, Mark, Play Pie, and Dobson shouldn't get their keepers and all of their top "free" picks, since they drafted guys in the first few rounds when 4 of us were drafting our keepers.

 

Anyway, thoughts on how to fix this? Given how much trouble the draft was, I'd prefer trading to fix it, but that might be a headache too. I'm open to ideas.

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This is a mess, but here's where we stand...

 

Flames needs to trade:

 

1. Kobe to Dobson

2. KG, VC, and Yao to PlayPie

3. Marion and Nash to Mark

 

IMB needs to trade Dirk to Mark

 

I need to trade Paul & TD to Flames

 

Dobson needs to trade Deng to Flames

 

 

Now, that can all be worked out, but Mark, PlayPie and Dobson need to trade some of their top picks in order to balance this out. In essence, IMB and I drafted our 3 keepers each, but once the 4th round hit and several keepers had been drafted by the wrong teams and Mark, Dobson & PlayPie had drafted the top "free" players, we decided it was a free for all.

 

So it would be unfair to allow guys to keep other team's keepers, but it would also be unfair to allow Mark, PlayPie and Dobson to get not only their 3 keepers, but also the 3 guys they got in the first 3 rounds (top "free" players). So I suggest we either set up a new draft time after everyone's fixed their pre-ranking issues or we try to fix this with trades. I'm ok with either one, but we need to decide ASAP b/c if we're going to start over, we have to shut down this league and create a new one and if we're going to trade, they need to be done like now.

[Vanilla Ice]

I thought we were supposed to exclude all keepers, my bad. I am open to re-drafting as I will be free almost any time for the next couple of weeks, but would also be willing to trade my players.

[Mark_R]

Trading would be nearly impossible. If we can do a re-draft at night at some time, that'd probably suit a majority at least.

[Flames24Rulz]

I vote a redraft. Sorry for messing things up, I've just been extremely busy the last few days.

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I'm ok with a redraft, but people either need to attend or prerank correctly (make your 3 keepers your top 3 picks and exclude everyone else's keepers). I'll have to set up a new league. I'll pm the new ID & password to everyone. I'll set the draft for Thursday 6:00 pm Eastern/5:00 pm Central - is that late enough? I can't really go any later than that.

 

Doesn't look like we can delete the current league since the draft has already taken place, so if anyone is interested in playing that league out for the hell of it, fine by me.

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Had a few minor issues apparently since Mark took Rashard in the 2nd and G Wallace in the 3rd (and might have taken someone else's keeper in the 1st). Dobson also took Bosh rather than his keeper in the 3rd, so a few guys got a windfall in the 4th as Pierce, VC, and DHow all got taken after the keeper rounds. If you guys want to work out trades to get back your keepers, fine, but I say we keep these results and just move on.

 

Good luck.

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I apologize, Mark, it wasn't you at all. Andy and someone else drafted your keepers right ahead of you in the 2nd, so Y! automatically defaulted to your 4th pick (Lewis, apparently). So you were in the right, but those guys screwed up.

 

Anyone who didn't get their own keepers, feel free to let me know and we'll see if we can't fix it (Andy - you shouldn't get to keep Marion, especially since it looks like you got 4 keepers total - there are a few other guys with the same issue).

 

Still, we're not drafting a 4th time, so let's work this out and go with it.

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Ok - sorry for 3 posts, but I figured it out. Andy must not have preranked. You have to give Kobe to Dobson and Marion back to Mark. We'll figure out what you will get back. I don't think we can penalize Flames for taking DHow, since it was in the 4th, but we'll figure that out.

 

PlayPie - you have to give Dirk back to Mark. Again, I'm not sure what you'll get back, but we'll figure it out.

 

So we only have 3 deals to be made.

 

Andy gives Kobe to Dobson

 

Andy gives Marion to Mark

 

PlayPie gives Dirk to Mark

 

Since Andy & PlayPie were in the wrong, I vote that we don't penalize the guys that ended up with their keepers. But we should make the trades above fair if possible.

[Vanilla Ice]

Don't I get Carter from whoever Doug Christie's wife is, then whoever that is trades Dirk for whoever. then i have my three keepers.

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Don't I get Carter from whoever Doug Christie's wife is, then whoever that is trades Dirk for whoever. then i have my three keepers.

 

It's not that easy. cheapseats (DC's Wife) picked Carter in R4, when all keepers were supposed to have been picked and the remaining players were fair game. He has all his keepers, so if you took VC from him, he'd be foregoing his 4th round pick, which isn't really fair, especially since the reason you didn't draft VC is you drafted Dirk, who wasn't your keeper, in R2.

 

If someone gets the short end of the stick to some degree on these trades, it should be you and Andy, not Mark, dobson, or cheapseats.

[Productive Outs]

yeah, it drafted bosh for me because i had lewis as my 4th ranked player after my keepers, and then bosh 5th.

[Andy]

All I can think of is to have me and PP trade other people's keepers, plus a middle-range draft pick, for our own. That way we get penalized and we'll just go get undrafted players. Any other ideas are fine though.

[Mark_R]

I posed trades to both Andy (accepted already) and Play Pie. I like to think I've made both offers fairly given the circumstances of the draft.

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There were 3 trades pending this morning and I've allowed them all (so they should be reflected in your team page tomorrow).

 

So does that clear everything up?

[Vanilla Ice]

bump for playoff time

[Vanilla Ice]

bump

 

dob and I tied 4-4 in the championship game

[Productive Outs]

i think that's my second championship in three years of participating in the league. a lot of luck involved in both.

[Vanilla Ice]

i think that's my second championship in three years of participating in the league. a lot of luck involved in both.

and a second place for me in my only year of doi ng it

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This is only the 2nd year we've had the league. IMB started it last year and then I took it up this year. Though participation after the draft was basically equal in both years. I don't think we'll see year 3.

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This is only the 2nd year we've had the league. IMB started it last year and then I took it up this year. Though participation after the draft was basically equal in both years. I don't think we'll see year 3.

 

well, it wasn't this exact league, but we had an NSBB one back in 2005. mark was in it, derwood, and maybe RynoRules? i can't remember everyone else. but i won it too :P