Alex Rios: Possible Cubs Target??

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Take out either Marshall, or Pie. I'm not giving up both.

I'm pretty high on both, Pie has great speed and has 5-tool potential. And Marshall has a great curve and can hit a dime 60 feet away, He's got deadly accuracy.

 

This is the second time you've said this and it's the second time I'll call you out on it. Marshall's is above average at best. Where you get the idea that he's got this Greg Maddux laser eye control is beyond me. You certainly couldn't have gotten it from actually watching him pitch.

Scouting reports.

 

Read Baseball Fever much?

 

And I quote:

 

Baseball Fever[/url]"]Biggest Strength: Command

 

This kid could hit a dime from 60 feet away. His highest BB/9 was this season between Daytona and West Tenn with 2.96 which is still extremely good. Not only can he pinpoint his sinker but he can lock in his curve and change whenever need be. He needs to keep that control in order to be an effective future major leaguer. With his solid mechanics, he shouldn't have to worry about his control faultering that much though.

 

Quoting with attribution - what a concept.

[Backtobanks]

Rios is the kind of guy that would be great to get, but as others have said, I can't see why the Blue Jays would want to trade him. The offer you mentioned might get it done, but that kind of overpayment by the Cubs might really hurt down the line. While I like Theriot, the question still lingers whether he is a full-time starter at SS for the next few years. Cedeno hasn't proven himself, but he definitely is a SS.

 

This doesn't make much sense.... Anytime you trade a prospect, you are flirting with disaster. Anytime you sign a free agent, same deal.. Toronto would be making just as big a risk as the Cubs, if not bigger, because Rios is a proven stud. Say the trade happened, and Pie proved to live up to his expectations in 3 years, while Marshall/Veal/Cedeno/Soto turned out to be career minor leaguers. And say Rios came to Chicago, ended up hitting 40+ homers, drove in 100+, and hit .300 with an OBP of .350+ over the next few years. Does this trade still 'not make sense?'

 

Just because Cedeno is a 'SS' doesn't mean much of anything. Izturis was a 'SS', but we all know what happened there.

 

My point about Cedeno is that very few people had Theriot pegged for more than a utility infielder. If Theriot is unable to put up strong numbers, the Cubs would need an everyday SS. I agree with your comments about Rios being a stud now, but it is possible that Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall could all be very productive players for the Blue Jays (or Cubs) in 2008 while Soto certainly could be at least a backup catcher next year. It certainly would be a gamble for both teams to make this kind of deal.

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I love Rios. That said Alexis Rios was given 426 AB's in his first year('04) where he stunk it up for his first month batting .230 and then dramatically improved from July to September.

 

Stinking it up for his first month sounds familiar to a first year outfielder we have. Don't make the trade, call back Pie, pay less, keep the second best rotation(ERA wise anyways) in the NL together, upgrade elsewhere. Sounds like a plan.

 

Your common sense has no place in this thread!

 

The problem is we have not developed a hitting prospect almost since the conception of the internet. If Pie fully develops I really don't see him becoming much better than Rios if any at all. Its not as if we will not have the resources to resign him, so I would make a trading involving Pie for Rios.