5/29 Marlins (Willis) vs. Cubs (Marquis) 7:05PM CT CSN

[JeffH]

I imagine that he's a very nice guy (he seems so when interviewed), but the absolute fact of the matter is that, as a GM, Jim Hendry is garbage.

[tfarks]

I feel your frustration, but he's not worst than Matt Millen or Isaiah Thomas.

 

Are you sure about that ?They may be taking different routes,but their ending up at the same place.

 

Eh, at least Hendry has done some things right. Those 2 have never done anything right as GMs. But I would say hes in that company.

[Monco]

Uh, you mean like Patterson, Dubois, Kelton, Harvey, etc.? We simply have bad people making poor personnel decisions who have no real clue how to develop a farm system and how to properly fill holes with right players. Why some people were okay with firing Baker and keeping Hendry is beyond me.

 

yeah that's the point... stop developing scrubs (note the common thread with those guys - horrible plate discipline) and actually get a minor league system that contributes talent onto the major league squad. Look at the team that's playing tonight, most of the players came from within or in trades for talent they developed (Beckett, Pierre)

 

It all begins with the GM. He loves "toolsy" players and his scouts love "toolsy" players. How a guy like Theriot is on the team is by pure accident.

Theriot was an accident.They moved him from short because of Luis Montanez.They moved him a level above Montanez,and made him a switch hitter.

[Omar]

Why cant Cubs pitchers throw strikes? Is it because they dont want to/too afraid to? Is it because they can't and it isnt as easy at it looks? Edited May 30, 2007 by Omar

[weis21]

these marlins hitter are so much younger than most of the cubs, yet their plate discipline is so much more advanced than ours...funny how that worked out

[illiniguy]

I feel your frustration, but he's not worst than Matt Millen or Isaiah Thomas.

 

Are you sure about that ?They may be taking different routes,but their ending up at the same place.

Throw Millen out. He isn't allowed to spend more money than his opponents. Thus, you don't know how bad he really is. That said Isaiah took a bad team and kept them there. Jimbo took a team on the brisk of being pretty good and turned them into crap. He got lemonade and then urinated in it.

[illiniguy]

I feel your frustration, but he's not worst than Matt Millen or Isaiah Thomas.

 

Are you sure about that ?They may be taking different routes,but their ending up at the same place.

 

Eh, at least Hendry has done some things right. Those 2 have never done anything right as GMs. But I would say hes in that company.

I would say drafting Channing Frye and Damon Stoudamire where both better than anything Jim has done.

[Omar]

these marlins hitter are so much younger than most of the cubs, yet their plate discipline is so much more advanced than ours...funny how that worked out

 

It's not surprising, since their minor league team is the Albuquerque Isotopes.

[dalgreen]

I feel your frustration, but he's not worst than Matt Millen or Isaiah Thomas.

 

Are you sure about that ?They may be taking different routes,but their ending up at the same place.

 

I hate giving Hendry any credit, but at least he's been able to fool some people into thinking this team can win the division (even before the season). I can tell you now that no one will pick the Lions or the Knicks to win their divisions.

[illiniguy]

I feel your frustration, but he's not worst than Matt Millen or Isaiah Thomas.

 

Are you sure about that ?They may be taking different routes,but their ending up at the same place.

 

I hate giving Hendry any credit, but at least he's been able to fool some people into thinking this team can win the division (even before the season). I can tell you now that no one will pick the Lions or the Knicks to win their divisions.

So what, the people who were fooled into thinking this cubs team could win this division are fools.

[dalgreen]

Uh, you mean like Patterson, Dubois, Kelton, Harvey, etc.? We simply have bad people making poor personnel decisions who have no real clue how to develop a farm system and how to properly fill holes with right players. Why some people were okay with firing Baker and keeping Hendry is beyond me.

 

yeah that's the point... stop developing scrubs (note the common thread with those guys - horrible plate discipline) and actually get a minor league system that contributes talent onto the major league squad. Look at the team that's playing tonight, most of the players came from within or in trades for talent they developed (Beckett, Pierre)

 

It all begins with the GM. He loves "toolsy" players and his scouts love "toolsy" players. How a guy like Theriot is on the team is by pure accident.

Theriot was an accident.They moved him from short because of Luis Montanez.They moved him a level above Montanez,and made him a switch hitter.

 

I meant he's an accident because with his good plate discipline and not being "toolsy", somehow he still made the team.

[tfarks]

I feel your frustration, but he's not worst than Matt Millen or Isaiah Thomas.

 

Are you sure about that ?They may be taking different routes,but their ending up at the same place.

 

Eh, at least Hendry has done some things right. Those 2 have never done anything right as GMs. But I would say hes in that company.

I would say drafting Channing Frye and Damon Stoudamire where both better than anything Jim has done.

 

Oh come on, any GM would have taken Frye with that spot...and Isiah Thomas was a part of drafting Tracy McGrady, Mighty Mouse as you said and Marcus Camby. All good players but he was a VP, how much input do you know that he had? I'm sure it was a mutual decision, those were all easy choices at the draft spots they had. However, much better draft decision then Millen, even if you want to throw him out.

[JeffH]

This team has a better chance of setting a franchise record for losses than it does of winning the division.

[Monco]

Marmol 2 K's in the 6th ! Time to send him down,Wade Millers ready.

[weis21]

ramirez was really busting it down the line on that one.

[ctcf]

This team has a better chance of setting a franchise record for losses than it does of winning the division.

 

Somehow I'm willing to bet thats not actually true.

[Monco]

I feel your frustration, but he's not worst than Matt Millen or Isaiah Thomas.

 

Are you sure about that ?They may be taking different routes,but their ending up at the same place.

 

Eh, at least Hendry has done some things right. Those 2 have never done anything right as GMs. But I would say hes in that company.

I would say drafting Channing Frye and Damon Stoudamire where both better than anything Jim has done.

 

Oh come on, any GM would have taken Frye with that spot...and Isiah Thomas was a part of drafting Tracy McGrady, Mighty Mouse as you said and Marcus Camby. All good players but he was a VP, how much input do you know that he had? I'm sure it was a mutual decision, those were all easy choices at the draft spots they had. However, much better draft decision then Millen, even if you want to throw him out.

 

And how has Jim Hendry done drafting?

[Buford T Justice]

3-1 count better swing guys

[dalgreen]

I feel your frustration, but he's not worst than Matt Millen or Isaiah Thomas.

 

Are you sure about that ?They may be taking different routes,but their ending up at the same place.

Throw Millen out. He isn't allowed to spend more money than his opponents. Thus, you don't know how bad he really is. That said Isaiah took a bad team and kept them there. Jimbo took a team on the brisk of being pretty good and turned them into crap. He got lemonade and then urinated in it.

 

:lol:

 

I like that. You are right.

[TruffleShuffle]

This team has a better chance of setting a franchise record for losses than it does of winning the division.

 

Somehow I'm willing to bet thats not actually true.

 

yeah but he says a lot of hyperbolic things that aren't true

[tfarks]

I feel your frustration, but he's not worst than Matt Millen or Isaiah Thomas.

 

Are you sure about that ?They may be taking different routes,but their ending up at the same place.

 

Eh, at least Hendry has done some things right. Those 2 have never done anything right as GMs. But I would say hes in that company.

I would say drafting Channing Frye and Damon Stoudamire where both better than anything Jim has done.

 

Oh come on, any GM would have taken Frye with that spot...and Isiah Thomas was a part of drafting Tracy McGrady, Mighty Mouse as you said and Marcus Camby. All good players but he was a VP, how much input do you know that he had? I'm sure it was a mutual decision, those were all easy choices at the draft spots they had. However, much better draft decision then Millen, even if you want to throw him out.

 

And how has Jim Hendry done drafting?

 

Not that great.

[weis21]

well at least we have "happy lou" managing, not the old one that actually acted like he gave a damn how his team plays.

[ctcf]

This team has a better chance of setting a franchise record for losses than it does of winning the division.

 

Somehow I'm willing to bet thats not actually true.

 

yeah but he says a lot of hyperbolic things that aren't true

What?!

 

YOU DON'T SAY

[JeffH]

Hanley Ramirez is very, very good.

 

The Cubs are not.

[TruffleShuffle]

"it's about a fat, loud cub fan with food in his mouth"