The Bears Offseason Thread

[Butterscup1679666578]

they can still hire him as Defensive Coordinator.

 

yeah, i know, thats why i said he isnt going there to be head coach, you need to read closer ;)

[texascub]

I really can't see Rivera coming to Dallas as DC now that Phillips has been hired. Phillips will continue running the 3-4, and Rivera is a 4-3 coach.

[TB_11]

i would compare the development of rex to the development of brees, another short QB. brees is more mobile, rex has a better arm.

 

brees was terrible his first couple of years as a starter, but soon found his comfort level in the pocket.

 

Becoming like Brees would be the best-case scenario for Grossman. Regardless, however he develops the Bears need to have it happen quickly. The window with this team is probably two more years.

[Chocolate Milk]

The new radio talk is about Jeff Garcia and his reported desire to play for the Bears.

[CuseCubFan69]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

[Chocolate Milk]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

IMO it's not going to happen. The Bears aren't going to shell out FA money for Garcia unless they dump Griese.

[Banedon]

The new radio talk is about Jeff Garcia and his reported desire to play for the Bears.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/248641,CST-SPT-bear08.article

 

''That's a team that is really well put together defensively and offensively,'' Garcia told the newspaper. ''That is a situation where you have to be honest with yourself and take a look at it. I'm not going to lie. That would be a situation that would make me think about certain things. Whether that happens or not, we'll have to see.''

 

 

From the same article:

 

One league source said it's unlikely the Texans would dump Carr, given that they passed on local hero Vince Young in last year's draft. That error was made under former general manager Charley Casserly, who chose defensive end Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush or Young.

[CuseCubFan69]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

IMO it's not going to happen. The Bears aren't going to shell out FA money for Garcia unless they dump Griese.

 

I don't think he would be that expensive.

[CuseCubFan69]

Since this is a football thread I have a question. Would Grossman get credit for a tackle if he is the guy that is touching a defensive player on a fumble that the defense recovered? Edited February 8, 2007 by CuseCubFan69

[Banedon]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

IMO it's not going to happen. The Bears aren't going to shell out FA money for Garcia unless they dump Griese.

 

I don't think he would be that expensive.

 

There's been rumors that the Vikings will offer Garcia over $4mil/season.

[CuseCubFan69]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

IMO it's not going to happen. The Bears aren't going to shell out FA money for Garcia unless they dump Griese.

 

I don't think he would be that expensive.

 

There's been rumors that the Vikings will offer Garcia over $4mil/season.

 

What's Griese getting paid?

[Banedon]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

IMO it's not going to happen. The Bears aren't going to shell out FA money for Garcia unless they dump Griese.

 

I don't think he would be that expensive.

 

There's been rumors that the Vikings will offer Garcia over $4mil/season.

 

What's Griese getting paid?

 

I know it's a 5 year deal, but I can't find anything that lists his salary.

 

EDIT: I think his deal with the Bucs before us was 5 years/$32 million

[Magnetic Curses]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

what would worry me is management prematurely giving up a on a kid after his first full season in the NFL, in which they were in the super bowl...

 

if the bears didn't have such a good year, grossman would have probably flown under the radar and been allowed a proper amount of time to develop. he's a victim of the team's success, a tea, that he was an integral part for 10-11 games.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

nah, let someone else shell out big bucks for a 37-year old QB whom nobody really wanted until the last few games of the season.

[minnesotacubsfan]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

last I checked, we dont run the West Coast....

 

Is Turners O a derivative of the west coast? I didnt think it was

[CuseCubFan69]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

what would worry me is management prematurely giving up a on a kid after his first full season in the NFL, in which they were in the super bowl...

 

if the bears didn't have such a good year, grossman would have probably flown under the radar and been allowed a proper amount of time to develop. he's a victim of the team's success, a tea, that he was an integral part for 10-11 games.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

nah, let someone else shell out big bucks for a 37-year old QB whom nobody really wanted until the last few games of the season.

 

Evaluation is the key and they see him everyday so they should be able to tell better than anyone. But, IMO he was overrated as a college QB and will be a worse than average type of QB in the NFL. If you put him on a team that had no offensive line like many new QB's have and his stats would have been dreadful.

[CuseCubFan69]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

last I checked, we dont run the West Coast....

 

Is Turners O a derivative of the west coast? I didnt think it was

 

If the Bears ADAPT to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

[minnesotacubsfan]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

last I checked, we dont run the West Coast....

 

Is Turners O a derivative of the west coast? I didnt think it was

 

If the Bears ADAPT to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

 

oic...I was confused by that remark......

[USSoccer]

Jeff Garcia sucks. Winning the NFC East is no great accomplishment. That division was criminally overrated.

 

Bears fans should be careful what they pine for if they clamor for Garcia. He's going to make them beg for Rex.

[CuseCubFan69]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

last I checked, we dont run the West Coast....

 

Is Turners O a derivative of the west coast? I didnt think it was

 

If the Bears ADAPT to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

 

oic...I was confused by that remark......

 

No problem, I do it all the time....unfortunately.

[Chocolate Milk]

I have no real interest in Jeff Garcia. Just thought I would bring it up.

[CuseCubFan69]

Jeff Garcia sucks. Winning the NFC East is no great accomplishment. That division was criminally overrated.

 

Bears fans should be careful what they pine for if they clamor for Garcia. He's going to make them beg for Rex.

 

You're wrong. You have to overreact and get the hottest thing out there that the press thinks will help you win. You my friend, will never be a Bayless.

[Magnetic Curses]

What would worry me if I were a Bear fan is that the management feeling they have to prove that they made the right move by picking and staying with Grossman.

 

Garcia is perfect for the West coast offense and if the Bears adapt to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup.

 

last I checked, we dont run the West Coast....

 

Is Turners O a derivative of the west coast? I didnt think it was

 

turner's offense is pretty much conventional west coast.

[Banedon]

Count me in the "not interested in Garcia" crowd. Mcnabb and Carr are really the only two options that have perked my interest from what I've heard.

[CubColtPacer]

Jeff Garcia sucks. Winning the NFC East is no great accomplishment. That division was criminally overrated.

 

Bears fans should be careful what they pine for if they clamor for Garcia. He's going to make them beg for Rex.

 

Considering that Garcia has had 1 season out of 8 where he played worse than Rex this year (and that year he only played 6 games behind one of the worst offensive lines I've seen with a huge deficit most of the time-otherwise known as the Lions :D )-I'm not sure how you can make such a definitive claim.

[Banedon]

Jeff Garcia sucks. Winning the NFC East is no great accomplishment. That division was criminally overrated.

 

Bears fans should be careful what they pine for if they clamor for Garcia. He's going to make them beg for Rex.

 

Considering that Garcia has had 1 season out of 8 where he played worse than Rex this year (and that year he only played 6 games behind one of the worst offensive lines I've seen with a huge deficit most of the time-otherwise known as the Lions :D )-I'm not sure how you can make such a definitive claim.

 

Grossman is far more likely to improve than Garcia.