Hendry suddenly smart?

[jjgman21]

I like being in the dugout when jjman21 fights someone!

 

then I'm beaning your clean up hitter.

[OleMissCub]

I like being in the dugout when jjman21 fights someone!

 

then I'm beaning your clean up hitter.

 

:x

 

I'd just have to charge the mound on his behalf. Surely the verbal screwball that you hit him with momentarily dazzed him to where he couldn't adequately retaliate on his own. :wink:

[jjgman21]

I like being in the dugout when jjman21 fights someone!

 

then I'm beaning your clean up hitter.

 

:x

 

I'd just have to charge the mound on his behalf. Surely the verbal screwball that you hit him with momentarily dazzed him to where he couldn't adequately retaliate on his own. :wink:

 

yeah, you're just lucky that we've gone from political season to baseball transaction season.

[OleMissCub]

I like being in the dugout when jjman21 fights someone!

 

then I'm beaning your clean up hitter.

 

:x

 

I'd just have to charge the mound on his behalf. Surely the verbal screwball that you hit him with momentarily dazzed him to where he couldn't adequately retaliate on his own. :wink:

 

yeah, you're just lucky that we've gone from political season to baseball transaction season.

 

Lucky? I'm bored as hell with no one to fight with. If I understood what the crap you and this fella are arguing about, I'd be inclined to jump in just for the hell of it. But from what I can gather, I think I'd be on your side in this argument.

[Mephistopheles]

god i feel like im talking to a wall. in fact, at least a wall has something i can bang my head against.

 

okay i said an elite offense needs five 350 obp guys

 

the last i checked all of these were in fact true

 

1+2+2 = 5 = 3 + 2

 

400 > 370 > 350

[jjgman21]

god i feel like im talking to a wall. in fact, at least a wall has something i can bang my head against.

 

okay i said an elite offense needs five 350 obp guys

 

the last i checked all of these were in fact true

 

1+2+2 = 5 = 3 + 2

 

400 > 370 > 350

 

you either need a better memory or to learn how to use the edit button, because once again you said

 

If you want a playoff caliber offense you're going to need five or so - or a lot of power to back it up

 

last I checked 383, 355, 363, 357 and 351 were all greater than 350 and 349 is pretty damn close.

 

now I'm not sure what "or so" means, but I have to assume it means "approximately." 4 is approximately 5, at least in this context because you can't have a fraction of a baseball player taking the field, and the Cubs have alot of power.

 

whatever you want to change your point to now makes little difference. the Cubs have a playoff caliber offense according to what you said before you kept trying to change what you said, despite the fact that what you said is right there in black and white. now I might be willing to cut some slack because mistakes are sometimes made, but clearly you didn't go through all those statistical calculations for me only to blow your point at the end, now did you.

[Mephistopheles]

God, I give up. I am arguing to a wall.

[nilodnayr]

If the Cubs would need 126 more walks to finish in the middle of the pack, then DLee will give you better than half of those, maybe most of them. Not having him in the lineup made a huge difference. Made the Cubs look worse than they should have all the way around.

 

The cubs had 67 walks from the firstbasemen last year (and don't forget some of that was DLee himself). DLee typically gets about 80ish a season. So he adds about 15 walks. Nowhere near half or most of 126. Obviously not having him in the lineup made a huge difference, but not really to our IsoD, which was not horrible (.071).

 

DLee has had the following IsoD for the cubs:

 

2006: .082

2005: .083

2004: .078

 

A full season of DLee is not going to solve our walk issues...sorry.

 

yes, but the guy getting alot of the walks in place of DLee was the guy who should have been getting walks as the Cubs second baseman.

 

Perez, Hairston, Cedeno, Bynum, Womack = 347 abs, 16 BBs as secondbaseman.

 

not enough to make up the difference, but another chip into the walk crisis.

 

edit

perhaps a better way to illustrate my point is the Cubs 1B and 2B combined for 115 walks last year. Lee would predictably have had 85-90.

And DeRosa is another 45-50. So that accounts for a net gain of probably 20-30 walks. So we still need 100 more walks to get to middle of the pack. If we added Lugo that'd be another net gain of 30 walks. Although I think looking at walks alone is myopic.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

God, I give up. I am arguing to a wall.

 

Because you're making the argument that you want the optimal offense because that is the offense that gives you the chance to make it to the WS.

 

The other side is arguing that most WS teams don't have that top offense, so you don't need one.

 

I think you're right, and using the argument that a team made it to the WS with offense X is like saying: "It's OK for the offense to be mediocre, cause medioce teams have won the WS before."

 

Sadly, the Cubs will ignore their biggest problem (OBP) while Hendry is around.

[Soul]

God, I give up. I am arguing to a wall.

 

Because you're making the argument that you want the optimal offense because that is the offense that gives you the chance to make it to the WS.

 

The other side is arguing that most WS teams don't have that top offense, so you don't need one.

 

I think you're right, and using the argument that a team made it to the WS with offense X is like saying: "It's OK for the offense to be mediocre, cause medioce teams have won the WS before."

 

Sadly, the Cubs will ignore their biggest problem (OBP) while Hendry is around.

 

...which I think everyone on these boards has difficulty understanding. Why would a MLB GM ignore an important metric such as OBP? I can't wrap my mind around it----and I sense almost everyone else feels the same.

 

But nevertheless, it appears to make no sense.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

...which I think everyone on these boards has difficulty understanding. Why would a MLB GM ignore an important metric such as OBP?

 

Considering the amount of fans, scouts, old players, and just the games love of its tradition, I don't think its too extreme.

 

And you know...actions speak louder than words. Unfortunately, it's not like Hendry never spoke the right words in the first place. His actions (especially lately) say alot more about what he thinks of the Cubs problems.

 

He's SAID it himself, read my thread in the baseball discussions area. He really thinks our problem is clutch hitting.

[Illini Iceman]

God, I give up. I am arguing to a wall.

 

It is pretty obtuse to make this comment. I have read all the posts and think both sides have made pretty good arguments. He has just backed you into a corner and instead of being able to explain your way out you have chosen to take your ball and go home.