Howard wins NL MVP

[RockTheIvy]

Pujols deserved it more, but Howard's season was fantastic.

 

Can you elaborate? I assume you mean Pujols' season was par for the course, but Howard's season was an anomaly?

 

They both had great seasons. Pujols' was better, but it isn't like when they gave the Gold Glove to Palmeiro who played 8 games at 1B.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Personally, I thought the RIGHT guy won the MVP award. No disrespect to Pujols, but since Abreu was dealt, Howard was the LONE RANGER on the Phillies team that was expected to fade after the trade, but managed to stay in the hunt.

 

I would not have had a problem with Pujols winning it, I just think the RIGHT player won it.

 

Runs Created:

Pujols- 150

Howard- 138

 

Win Shares:

Pujols- 39

Howard- 31

 

OPS

Pujols- 1.102

Howard- 1.084

 

Nope. The right guy didn't get. I'm no fan of Pujols, but I just get upset when the voters screw things up. They messed it up last year and once again this year.

 

Pujols had a little MORE help on offense then Ryan Howard. Pujols had (admittedly they are still playing off their reputations) Edmonds/Rolen/Eckstein/Duncan, whereas Howard only had Utley and MAYBE Rollins.

 

Pujols would had been a "bigger name" to win the award, but I still think Howard was the right guy to win the award. If Philly lost Howard that would be Royalesque, when the Cards lost Pujols for 1 month, they weren't great, but they stayed afloat till Pujols got back.

 

So again, I believe the right guy won it, and stats DON'T always tell the whole story about certain players.

[Catman61]

Pujols had a little MORE help on offense then Ryan Howard. Pujols had (admittedly they are still playing off their reputations) Edmonds/Rolen/Eckstein/Duncan, whereas Howard only had Utley and MAYBE Rollins.

 

Nope, Howard had a LOT more help on offense

2-5 on the Phillies by VORP

Utley - 65.2

Rollins - 45.2

Burrell - 27.5

Abreu - 25.5

 

2-5 on Cardinals by VORP

Rolen - 36.6

Duncan - 24.8

Edmonds - 20.0

Spezio - 16.3

 

Think about that, 2 players one a superutility player the other starting the year in the minors and only playing 90 games were in the top 5 performers for the Cardinals in offensive production. Rolen's VORP would have been 4th on the Philles and none of the other 3 would have even made the Phillies top 5.

 

No, Howard had FAR more offensive help than Pujols.