Elias releases the FA Rankings

[CubFanPhilly]

It looks like the Cubs' cap on A/B free agent signings is three this year.

 

Unless the new CBA changes that system too.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

It looks like the Cubs' cap on A/B free agent signings is three this year.

 

Unless the new CBA changes that system too.

 

Wouldn't losing Pierre or Ramirez raise that though?

[CubFanPhilly]

It looks like the Cubs' cap on A/B free agent signings is three this year.

 

Unless the new CBA changes that system too.

 

Wouldn't losing Pierre or Ramirez raise that though?

 

Not sure:

 

"If there are 14 or less type A and B players available, no team may sign more than 1 type A or B player. If there are 15-38 available A and B players, no team may sign more than 2. From 39-62 this becomes 3. The club quota increases accordingly for higher totals of available free agents. There is no maximum allowed for type C free agents.

 

Lastly, a team can sign up to as many type A and B free agents as they've lost, regardless of the above quota."

 

I read that last clause as meaning if you've lost more type A/Bs than the quota you get to replace all your A/Bs, not that you get the quota plus the A/Bs you lose.

[CubFanPhilly]

Filed Type A and Type B Free Agents:

 

 Pos.                          Rating Type
OF/1B/DH  Moises Alou          86.44 A
2B/3B/SS  Rich Aurilia         71.43 A
RP        Danys Baez           69.81 A
2B/3B/SS  Ronnie Belliard      71.65 A
OF/1B/DH  Barry Bonds          70.00 A
RP        Joe Borowski         68.40 A
RP        Chad Bradford        62.89 A
OF/1B/DH  Sean Casey           72.31 A
OF/1B/DH  Frank Catalanotto    63.61 A
2B/3B/SS  Ray Durham           82.25 A
OF/1B/DH  Cliff Floyd          71.33 A
RP        Aaron Fultz          67.70 A
RP        Eric Gagne           69.11 A
OF/1B/DH  Luis Gonzalez        75.78 A
2B/3B/SS  Tony Graffanino      66.67 A
OF/1B/DH  Shawn Green          73.56 A
RP        Eddie Guardado       66.66 A
RP        Roberto Hernandez    69.47 A
OF/1B/DH  Aubrey Huff          70.89 A
OF/1B/DH  Carlos Lee           80.83 A
C         Mike Lieberthal      71.43 A
2B/3B/SS  Mark Loretta         72.93 A
2B/3B/SS  Julio Lugo           67.20 A
SP        Greg Maddux          75.33 A
OF/1B/DH  Gary Matthews        75.56 A
OF/1B/DH  Kevin Millar         65.00 A
C         Bengie Molina        80.48 A
2B/3B/SS  Aramis Ramirez       77.02 A
RP       David Riske           64.91 A
2B/3B/SS Brian Roberts         84.21 A
SP       Jason Schmidt         78.43 A
RP       Rudy Seanez           63.32 A
OF/1B/DH Alfonso Soriano       80.22 A
RP       Justin Speier         74.03 A
RP       Russ Springer         63.60 A
2B/3B/SS Todd Walker           71.00 A
RP       David Weathers        69.99 A
SP       Woody Williams        68.14 A
SP       Barry Zito            85.20 A

C        Rod Barajas           51.91 B
RP       Miguel Batista        55.11 B
2B/3B/SS Craig Counsell        64.07 B
OF/1B/DH Mark DeRosa           51.94 B
OF/1B/DH Matt Diaz             51.11 B
RP       Alan Embree           53.95 B
OF/1B/DH Nomar Garciaparra     60.00 B
2B/3B/SS Alex Gonzalez         62.34 B
OF/1B/DH Jose Guillen          57.56 B
RP       LaTroy Hawkins        53.66 B
RP       Rick Helling          55.14 B
SP       Orlando Hernandez     60.29 B
OF/1B/DH Shea Hillenbrand      54.78 B
2B/3B/SS Adam Kennedy          52.63 B
SP       Ted Lilly             62.55 B
SP       Jason Marquis         59.64 B
SP       Gil Meche             58.04 B
RP       Guillermo Mota        49.69 B
OF/1B/DH Trot Nixon            62.50 B
SP       Tomo Ohka             54.74 B
RP       Darren Oliver         51.98 B
SP       Vicente Padilla       57.84 B
SP       Chan Ho Park          57.68 B
OF/1B/DH Jay Payton            52.08 B
OF/1B/DH Juan Pierre           58.11 B
RP       Arthur Rhodes         56.28 B
RP       Scott Schoeneweis     56.11 B
RP       Mike Stanton          52.73 B
OF/1B/DH Frank Thomas          63.33 B
2B/3B/SS Jose Valentin         53.03 B
RP       Ron Villone           59.86 B
RP       Jamie Walker          59.31 B
SP       Jeff Weaver           60.05 B
C        Gregg Zaun            64.76 B

[CubColtPacer]

It looks like the Cubs' cap on A/B free agent signings is three this year.

 

Unless the new CBA changes that system too.

 

Wouldn't losing Pierre or Ramirez raise that though?

 

Not sure:

 

"If there are 14 or less type A and B players available, no team may sign more than 1 type A or B player. If there are 15-38 available A and B players, no team may sign more than 2. From 39-62 this becomes 3. The club quota increases accordingly for higher totals of available free agents. There is no maximum allowed for type C free agents.

 

Lastly, a team can sign up to as many type A and B free agents as they've lost, regardless of the above quota."

 

I read that last clause as meaning if you've lost more type A/Bs than the quota you get to replace all your A/Bs, not that you get the quota plus the A/Bs you lose.

 

There are already more than 62 filed, so it should be at least 4. Of course, I think Ramirez would count towards that number, so it would be back to three after that.

[CubFanPhilly]

There are already more than 62 filed, so it should be at least 4. Of course, I think Ramirez would count towards that number, so it would be back to three after that.

 

I assumed here that the final number will end up under 62. Teams hold options on several of the filed FAs on the list. Also, if I understand the rule correctly FAs re-signed by their teams don't count for purposes of the quota.

 

I'm sure several of these guy will end up re-signed (e.g. ARAM?). There are also approximately 60 guys eligible who haven't filed, though I glanced at that list and there are very few A/Bs left.

[CubFanPhilly]

Per the Pages 65-70 of the OLD CBA:

 

1) If Aramis re-signs with the Cubs before the Nov. 11 deadline he is not counted as a FA signing against the Cub's quota and is not considered a FA for purposes of determining the quota. If he signs after Nov. 11 he counts as a Type A/B signing. Section B(2)(b) [More incentive for Hendry to get something done now!];

 

2) Per Section B(5)(b), the quota is increased if the Club loses more Type A/B free agents than the quota otherwise allows (i.e., the Cubs' quota will be either 3 or 4 depending on the final number of A/Bs, Ramirez and Pierre will have no effect on the quota).

 

3) If the reports about negotiations between Soriano and the Orioles are true, and the old CBA is still in force, they've violated the agreement [section B(2)b allows a Club to discuss general interest, how the Club expects to use the FA, the potential length of the contract offer, guarantee provisions, etc, but not money.]

 

CFP

[CubsWin]

Per the Pages 65-70 of the OLD CBA:

 

1) If Aramis re-signs with the Cubs before the Nov. 11 deadline he is not counted as a FA signing against the Cub's quota and is not considered a FA for purposes of determining the quota. If he signs after Nov. 11 he counts as a Type A/B signing. Section B(2)(b) [More incentive for Hendry to get something done now!];

 

2) Per Section B(5)(b), the quota is increased if the Club loses more Type A/B free agents than the quota otherwise allows (i.e., the Cubs' quota will be either 3 or 4 depending on the final number of A/Bs, Ramirez and Pierre will have no effect on the quota).

 

3) If the reports about negotiations between Soriano and the Orioles are true, and the old CBA is still in force, they've violated the agreement [section B(2)b allows a Club to discuss general interest, how the Club expects to use the FA, the potential length of the contract offer, guarantee provisions, etc, but not money.]

 

CFP

Great work. Very interesting.

 

I guess, the new CBA is in effect...