My 2007 Cubs

[Transmogrified Tiger]

ugh, so moore isn't going to improve yet edmonds is going to decline? THAT'S stupid.

 

 

So you expect a guy with a mediocre career minor league OBP to improve upon that OBP in his rookie season? Yes, Edmonds is going to keep declining. Do you not understand the idea of aging ballplayers? Do you think all these injuries have been faked?

 

do you understand that aging ballplayers are capable of good seasons? do you understand the concept of the 1 year deal?

 

goodness gracious, goony, i'm not talking about signing this guy long term. relax.

 

Do you understand what a complete wreck Edmonds is right now? He's a shell of his former self.

[Sammy Sofa]

do you understand that aging ballplayers are capable of good seasons?

 

That is an uncanny impression of Jim Hendry. Bravo!

[Magnetic Curses]

do you understand that aging ballplayers are capable of good seasons?

 

That is an uncanny impression of Jim Hendry. Bravo!

 

i don't even know what that means.

 

i think you mean "dusty baker", but getting a cheap productive veteran with a great OBP and SLG really is indicative of neither. and really, starting 3 young position players isn't either.

 

so bravo, you're pretty sweet.

[Magnetic Curses]

ugh, so moore isn't going to improve yet edmonds is going to decline? THAT'S stupid.

 

 

So you expect a guy with a mediocre career minor league OBP to improve upon that OBP in his rookie season? Yes, Edmonds is going to keep declining. Do you not understand the idea of aging ballplayers? Do you think all these injuries have been faked?

 

do you understand that aging ballplayers are capable of good seasons? do you understand the concept of the 1 year deal?

 

goodness gracious, goony, i'm not talking about signing this guy long term. relax.

 

Do you understand what a complete wreck Edmonds is right now? He's a shell of his former self.

 

so is derrek lee. so is anyone who's been hurt without a history of a previous major injury. if he's been playing hurt he's capable of playing hurt a lot better than juan pierre is capable of playing injury-free.

 

like i said, let's not sign him long term, but the production level he's at right now, as a wreck, is still better than the alternatives.

 

wow, you'd think i was talking about re-signing willie wilson or something.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

ugh, so moore isn't going to improve yet edmonds is going to decline? THAT'S stupid.

 

 

So you expect a guy with a mediocre career minor league OBP to improve upon that OBP in his rookie season? Yes, Edmonds is going to keep declining. Do you not understand the idea of aging ballplayers? Do you think all these injuries have been faked?

 

do you understand that aging ballplayers are capable of good seasons? do you understand the concept of the 1 year deal?

 

goodness gracious, goony, i'm not talking about signing this guy long term. relax.

 

Do you understand what a complete wreck Edmonds is right now? He's a shell of his former self.

 

so is derrek lee. so is anyone who's been hurt without a history of a previous major injury. if he's been playing hurt he's capable of playing hurt a lot better than juan pierre is capable of playing injury-free.

 

like i said, let's not sign him long term, but the production level he's at right now, as a wreck, is still better than the alternatives.

 

wow, you'd think i was talking about re-signing willie wilson or something.

 

There's a difference between Derrek Lee breaking a bone, and Jim Edmonds getting concussions and needing cortisone shots for various other ailments. I don't see how you can assume he'll return to his production level, because down the stretch he certainly wasn't at it, when he actually did play.

[Magnetic Curses]

ugh, so moore isn't going to improve yet edmonds is going to decline? THAT'S stupid.

 

 

So you expect a guy with a mediocre career minor league OBP to improve upon that OBP in his rookie season? Yes, Edmonds is going to keep declining. Do you not understand the idea of aging ballplayers? Do you think all these injuries have been faked?

 

do you understand that aging ballplayers are capable of good seasons? do you understand the concept of the 1 year deal?

 

goodness gracious, goony, i'm not talking about signing this guy long term. relax.

 

Do you understand what a complete wreck Edmonds is right now? He's a shell of his former self.

 

so is derrek lee. so is anyone who's been hurt without a history of a previous major injury. if he's been playing hurt he's capable of playing hurt a lot better than juan pierre is capable of playing injury-free.

 

like i said, let's not sign him long term, but the production level he's at right now, as a wreck, is still better than the alternatives.

 

wow, you'd think i was talking about re-signing willie wilson or something.

 

There's a difference between Derrek Lee breaking a bone, and Jim Edmonds getting concussions and needing cortisone shots for various other ailments. I don't see how you can assume he'll return to his production level, because down the stretch he certainly wasn't at it, when he actually did play.

 

concussions aren't injuries you get because you're injury prone. generally, they are injuries you get from running into something or getting hit by someone.

 

as for the cortisone shots, i'm sure there are a lot of players that get them, especially older players.

 

again, i don't see how anyone can point to edmonds history and say: "he's going to be worth less than juan pierre in 2007". that doesn't make sense at all.

[Magnetic Curses]

personally, i feel that edmonds has 2 very productive seasons left as an outfielder. that's really what it comes down to. i think it's a small risk to take.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Just because he's going to be better than Juan Pierre doesn't mean it's a selling point.

 

And of course people are going to be concerned about an aging player who has had his production go down drastically over the course of the past two seasons (and who has been injured too).

[Magnetic Curses]

Just because he's going to be better than Juan Pierre doesn't mean it's a selling point.

 

And of course people are going to be concerned about an aging player who has had his production go down drastically over the course of the past two seasons (and who has been injured too).

 

edmonds will be a better bargain at his level of production than near any other player.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

What type of contract do you see Edmonds getting?

[WrigleyField 22]

I don't know the nature of Edmonds injuries, but if he can get healthy I would not be surprised to see him put up good numbers. Whoever gets him could get a huge steal.

[Mizzou]

Jim Edmonds' average has dropped nearly 50 points in the last two years; his OBP has dropped nearly 70 points in the last two years; his SLG has dropped 170 points in the last two years. In 2004, his OPS was 1061. In 2005, it was 918. This past year, it was 821. He is rapidly declining. Aside from the fact that he's probably my most hated player in the game, the fact that he's on a HUGE decline makes it a completely horrible idea to sign him next season.

[questionmarkgrace]

he was also terrible against lefties. So he'd fit right in.

[Magnetic Curses]

What type of contract do you see Edmonds getting?

 

i see him getting around 3 mil for a year.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

What type of contract do you see Edmonds getting?

 

i see him getting around 3 mil for a year.

 

I think he'll get double that.

[Magnetic Curses]

Jim Edmonds' average has dropped nearly 50 points in the last two years; his OBP has dropped nearly 70 points in the last two years; his SLG has dropped 170 points in the last two years. In 2004, his OPS was 1061. In 2005, it was 918. This past year, it was 821. He is rapidly declining. Aside from the fact that he's probably my most hated player in the game, the fact that he's on a HUGE decline makes it a completely horrible idea to sign him next season.

 

he could also be a huge bargain.

[A New Era]

My line-up (not chronological) consists of these players. .

 

Murton

Derreck Lee

Aramis Ramirez

Micheal Barret

 

And atleast 1 big bat and 1 above average aquisition.

 

I will then also use. .

 

Theroit

Pie

 

Depending on which positions the big bats play.

[frostwyrm]

Eat $2M to move Dempster for a decent prospect

 

Demp is owed another $10.5M over the next 2 years. Do you really think a GM will take on Demp's contract for $2M cash?

[WrigleyField 22]

With Rumors of a 115 million dollar payroll its time to play again!

 

Trade Juan Mateo, Ryan Dempster(5), Scott Moore, and Jake Fox for Alex Rodriguez. Yanks pay 18M(0,6,6,6) Next Four Years:(20,13,14,15)

--Yanks save 15M to go after Zito/Matsuzaka, a cheap rotation option, a 3B prospect, C prospect to take over for Posada in a few years (or to DH), and a guy to set up Rivera or put in the rotation. So while it lacks a Prior or Pie, they make out well. If they want Izturiz for 3B, send him along too.

 

Sign Jason Schmidt 3/38 (13,13,12)

 

Extend Carlos Zambrano 5/65(9,12,14,15,15)

 

Resign Aramiz Ramirez 4/52 (15,13,13,11)

 

Resign Wade Miller 1/3 with incentives and 5M mutual option

 

Sign Wood 1/2 with incentives and 6M option

 

Sign Mark Loretta 2/6.5 (3.5,3)

 

Sign Craig Wilson 3/13 (4,5,4)

 

Sign Russel Branyan 2yr/2M. If his option is picked up trade Fotenot for Branyan. 1M

 

C-Barett 4.4M

1B-Lee 13M

2B-Loretta 3.5M

3B-Ramirez 15M

SS-Rodriguez 20M

LF-Murton .4M

CF-Pie .3M

RF-Jones 4M/Wilson 4M

 

SP-Zambrano 9M

SP-Schmidt 13M

SP-Hill .4M

SP-Prior 4.5M

SP-Wade Miller 3M

 

RP-Bob Howry 4M

RP-Scott Eyre 3.5M

RP-Michael Wuertz .4M

RP-Kerry Wood 2M

RP-Will Ohman .95M

RP-David Aardsma .3M

Waiting in the Minors-Sean Marshall, Carlos Marmol(Iowa closer), Angel Guzman, Ryu, Roberto Novoa, Randy Wells, Chris Shaver,Adam Harben Sean Gallagher, Donald Veal. Some obviously could be used as throw ins.

 

BN-Russel Branyan 1M

BN-Cesar Izturis 4.15M

BN-Ryan Theriot .3M

BN-Angel Pagan.3M

BN-Geovany Soto .3M

Waiting in the Minors: Ronny Cedeno, Buck Coats, Freddie Bynum(he passes waivers), Brian Dopriak. Good thing we have a top pick!

 

111.7 M That leaves a little room for midseason aquisition, and I didn't even try to move Izturis. You could save a few million by throwing him in the AROD deal if the Yanks want him.