Interest in Edmonds?

[A New Era]

Just stay away Hendry. Stay away.

 

Jim Ed-dumbs doesn't like chicago and chicago doesn't like him.

 

Don't worry. 0% chance.

[FergieJ31]

Just stay away Hendry. Stay away.

 

Jim Ed-dumbs doesn't like chicago and chicago doesn't like him.

 

Don't worry. 0% chance.

 

He does like Chicago for "chasing tail".

[Lefty]

Assuming the docs would clear him to play, I'd rather try him next year than Pierre knowing that Pie is in the wings.

[WrigleyField 22]

I'd do one year, heavy on incentives, with a team and/or player option. One year of him could bridge nicely to Pie.

[A New Era]

I'd do one year, heavy on incentives, with a team and/or player option. One year of him could bridge nicely to Pie.

 

Just stay away Wrigleyfield, stay away.

[Magnetic Curses]

He's a broken down old man on a steady decline. He shows all the signs of somebody who could be out of the game in a couple years. In general, I don't want a guy for his last two years in the bigs. If Edmonds maintains the decline path he's on, losing .030 OBP points and ~.075 SLG points per year, he'll be no better than Pierre next season.

 

You really believe that? His slugging alone makes him worth more than Pierre, and he isn't going to forget how to take a walk.

 

Did you not notice the first part? If he continues on this decline, his numbers will look like Pierre's. I don't know if they will continue on that path. My guess is it won't be that drastic. But it's been that drastic for 2 years, and he's an old man with a thousand past injuries.

 

goony hates older players. but that's okay, his pecota predictions, iirc, are pretty decent, plus his injuries haven't limited him as much as many would have you believe. if he's been injured, he seems to have played through it pretty well.

[Rob]

He's a broken down old man on a steady decline. He shows all the signs of somebody who could be out of the game in a couple years. In general, I don't want a guy for his last two years in the bigs. If Edmonds maintains the decline path he's on, losing .030 OBP points and ~.075 SLG points per year, he'll be no better than Pierre next season.

 

You really believe that? His slugging alone makes him worth more than Pierre, and he isn't going to forget how to take a walk.

 

Did you not notice the first part? If he continues on this decline, his numbers will look like Pierre's. I don't know if they will continue on that path. My guess is it won't be that drastic. But it's been that drastic for 2 years, and he's an old man with a thousand past injuries.

 

goony hates older players. but that's okay, his pecota predictions, iirc, are pretty decent, plus his injuries haven't limited him as much as many would have you believe. if he's been injured, he seems to have played through it pretty well.

 

PECOTA's 2007

 

.270/.396/.564 in 515 PA

[Magnetic Curses]

He's a broken down old man on a steady decline. He shows all the signs of somebody who could be out of the game in a couple years. In general, I don't want a guy for his last two years in the bigs. If Edmonds maintains the decline path he's on, losing .030 OBP points and ~.075 SLG points per year, he'll be no better than Pierre next season.

 

You really believe that? His slugging alone makes him worth more than Pierre, and he isn't going to forget how to take a walk.

 

Did you not notice the first part? If he continues on this decline, his numbers will look like Pierre's. I don't know if they will continue on that path. My guess is it won't be that drastic. But it's been that drastic for 2 years, and he's an old man with a thousand past injuries.

 

goony hates older players. but that's okay, his pecota predictions, iirc, are pretty decent, plus his injuries haven't limited him as much as many would have you believe. if he's been injured, he seems to have played through it pretty well.

 

PECOTA's 2007

 

.270/.396/.564 in 515 PA

 

yep.

[Mizzou]

Pecota projections don't mean much when he hasn't even played since August 26th.

[YearofDaCubs]

Pecota projections don't mean much when he hasn't even played since August 26th.

Agreed. Also, for the past 2 years his avg has been about .260(.385 obp in 2005 and 356 obp this year) and def a little shy from .270 which pecota projects. IMO, Edmonds shouldn't even be an option. He is the epitome of anti-Cub.

[Magnetic Curses]

Pecota projections don't mean much when he hasn't even played since August 26th.

Agreed. Also, for the past 2 years his avg has been about .260(.385 obp in 2005 and 356 obp this year) and def a little shy from .270 which pecota projects. IMO, Edmonds shouldn't even be an option. He is the epitome of anti-Cub.

 

i don't understand what "anti-cub"means.

 

and i also don't understand how he won't be much better than pierre.

[YearofDaCubs]

Pecota projections don't mean much when he hasn't even played since August 26th.

Agreed. Also, for the past 2 years his avg has been about .260(.385 obp in 2005 and 356 obp this year) and def a little shy from .270 which pecota projects. IMO, Edmonds shouldn't even be an option. He is the epitome of anti-Cub.

 

i don't understand what "anti-cub"means.

 

and i also don't understand how he won't be much better than pierre.

If you don't understand what anti-cub means I don't know what to tell you. I'm not saying he is going to be worse than Pierre but I personally think we should look at better options than Edmonds and Pierre at CF.

[Rob]

Pecota projections don't mean much when he hasn't even played since August 26th.

Agreed. Also, for the past 2 years his avg has been about .260(.385 obp in 2005 and 356 obp this year) and def a little shy from .270 which pecota projects. IMO, Edmonds shouldn't even be an option. He is the epitome of anti-Cub.

 

i don't understand what "anti-cub"means.

 

and i also don't understand how he won't be much better than pierre.

 

It's exactly the same thing as when Damon was an "anti-yankee"

[Mark_R]

PECOTA's 2007

 

.270/.396/.564 in 515 PA

 

How is Edmonds going to improve over 120 OPS points? Is that for the 50 games he's healthy for next season?

 

How the hell does BP get that for his PECOTA for next year? Anybody who thinks he'll be at those numbers is a fool.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm not against getting Edmonds just because he's Edmonds. But let's be real here, nowadays the guy doesn't know what day of the week it is anymore.

[A New Era]

OOOooooh. . . WHO dropped the soap. WHO dropped the soap YEAH, who dropped the soap. .

 

I uh, am not singing about edmonds. I'm singing about dusty, because he doesn't clean behind the ears.

 

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Mr. "I hate the Cubs" signed with them and became a fan favorite. ;)

[Ding Dong Johnson]

i don't understand what "anti-cub"means.

 

One who meets or exceeds expectations.

[YearofDaCubs]

i don't understand what "anti-cub"means.

 

One who meets or exceeds expectations.

:lol:

[Rob]

PECOTA's 2007

 

.270/.396/.564 in 515 PA

 

How is Edmonds going to improve over 120 OPS points? Is that for the 50 games he's healthy for next season?

 

How the hell does BP get that for his PECOTA for next year? Anybody who thinks he'll be at those numbers is a fool.

 

First off, I already pointed out it predicted 515 PA... so it'd probably be more than 50 games. 10+ PA a game is more unrealistic than that PECOTA line.

 

The 2007 PECOTA was taken from his preseason five year forecast. Obviously it's going to be adjusted downward somewhat when they run his numbers again after the season, though I sincerely doubt he'll do worse than about .260/.360/.500 even if in limited playing time. Mostly, I see his defensive value suffering.

 

Honestly, I'm not too high on picking up Edmonds for CF. Wells is available, or we could make a positive from a bad signing by moving Jones to CF (even at less production than Edmonds or Wells, he'd be good value-wise).

 

Summarily dismissing Edmonds without so much as a thought is the sort of move this team cannot afford, however. If he makes the team better and comes cheaply, Hendry better be standing there with his checkbook in the non-donut hand.

[A New Era]

Just bring up peeaye.

[Lefty]

Edmonds shouldn't even be an option. He is the epitome of anti-Cub.

 

And this is a bad thing?

[Magnetic Curses]

Pecota projections don't mean much when he hasn't even played since August 26th.

Agreed. Also, for the past 2 years his avg has been about .260(.385 obp in 2005 and 356 obp this year) and def a little shy from .270 which pecota projects. IMO, Edmonds shouldn't even be an option. He is the epitome of anti-Cub.

 

i don't understand what "anti-cub"means.

 

and i also don't understand how he won't be much better than pierre.

If you don't understand what anti-cub means I don't know what to tell you.

 

okay, so you don't know what it means either, i'm glad we got that settled.

[A New Era]

Pecota projections don't mean much when he hasn't even played since August 26th.

Agreed. Also, for the past 2 years his avg has been about .260(.385 obp in 2005 and 356 obp this year) and def a little shy from .270 which pecota projects. IMO, Edmonds shouldn't even be an option. He is the epitome of anti-Cub.

 

i don't understand what "anti-cub"means.

 

and i also don't understand how he won't be much better than pierre.

If you don't understand what anti-cub means I don't know what to tell you.

 

okay, so you don't know what it means either, i'm glad we got that settled.

 

It means he hates the Cubs, if you honestly didn't know what that meant.

[radarluv1]

Pecota projections don't mean much when he hasn't even played since August 26th.

Agreed. Also, for the past 2 years his avg has been about .260(.385 obp in 2005 and 356 obp this year) and def a little shy from .270 which pecota projects. IMO, Edmonds shouldn't even be an option. He is the epitome of anti-Cub.

 

i don't understand what "anti-cub"means.

 

and i also don't understand how he won't be much better than pierre.

If you don't understand what anti-cub means I don't know what to tell you.

 

okay, so you don't know what it means either, i'm glad we got that settled.

 

It means he hates the Cubs, if you honestly didn't know what that meant.

 

i'm pretty sure he could forget any hate with a big contract. same goes for kline.

[A New Era]

Pecota projections don't mean much when he hasn't even played since August 26th.

Agreed. Also, for the past 2 years his avg has been about .260(.385 obp in 2005 and 356 obp this year) and def a little shy from .270 which pecota projects. IMO, Edmonds shouldn't even be an option. He is the epitome of anti-Cub.

 

i don't understand what "anti-cub"means.

 

and i also don't understand how he won't be much better than pierre.

If you don't understand what anti-cub means I don't know what to tell you.

 

okay, so you don't know what it means either, i'm glad we got that settled.

 

It means he hates the Cubs, if you honestly didn't know what that meant.

 

i'm pretty sure he could forget any hate with a big contract. same goes for kline.

 

I honestly think he would never want to come with the Cubs. But if he got some ridiculous offer (like $13 mil or something), then yes even hatred can't get in the way of fortune. However we won't offer him anywhere close enough to what he'd want, even if he liked the Cubs.