now is the time to keep losing

[larhur]

Time to get rid of Dusty, and all of the coaches, Get a new younger skipper, and new blood on the coaching team. I have just gottin tired of lazy, non thinking players, getting picked off base and excusing that as hustle playing. Rainbows over the cut-off man allowing runners to advance, etc. We need to fix this team Mr. Hendry.. NOW

[C.C.]

Time to get rid of Dusty, and all of the coaches, Get a new younger skipper, and new blood on the coaching team. I have just gottin tired of lazy, non thinking players, getting picked off base and excusing that as hustle playing. Rainbows over the cut-off man allowing runners to advance, etc. We need to fix this team Mr. Hendry.. NOW

 

Sorry, I can't back that statement because I can't imagine true fans would want their team to lose.

[kente777]

Time to get rid of Dusty, and all of the coaches, Get a new younger skipper, and new blood on the coaching team. I have just gottin tired of lazy, non thinking players, getting picked off base and excusing that as hustle playing. Rainbows over the cut-off man allowing runners to advance, etc. We need to fix this team Mr. Hendry.. NOW

 

I actually agree with you. I've been a Cubs fan all my life, but we need some serious managment changes. Sometimes you have to get to the lowest low before someone realizes that maybe all the excuses are nothing more than a smokescreen for the real problem.

 

Dusty hasn't done terrible this year, but I think it's time for some new enthusiastic blood in the dugout.

 

Ken

[LoneStarCubFan]

Time to get rid of Dusty, and all of the coaches, Get a new younger skipper, and new blood on the coaching team. I have just gottin tired of lazy, non thinking players, getting picked off base and excusing that as hustle playing. Rainbows over the cut-off man allowing runners to advance, etc. We need to fix this team Mr. Hendry.. NOW

 

I actually agree with you. I've been a Cubs fan all my life, but we need some serious managment changes. Sometimes you have to get to the lowest low before someone realizes that maybe all the excuses are nothing more than a smokescreen for the real problem.

 

Dusty hasn't done terrible this year, but I think it's time for some new enthusiastic blood in the dugout.

 

Ken

 

Didn't all this already happen in 2002? How much lower do we need to go?

[Garwilly]

Yep, a nice young manager is what propelled the 2003 Marlins to the best second half record in baseball.

[C.C.]

Time to get rid of Dusty, and all of the coaches, Get a new younger skipper, and new blood on the coaching team. I have just gottin tired of lazy, non thinking players, getting picked off base and excusing that as hustle playing. Rainbows over the cut-off man allowing runners to advance, etc. We need to fix this team Mr. Hendry.. NOW

 

I actually agree with you. I've been a Cubs fan all my life, but we need some serious managment changes. Sometimes you have to get to the lowest low before someone realizes that maybe all the excuses are nothing more than a smokescreen for the real problem.

 

Dusty hasn't done terrible this year, but I think it's time for some new enthusiastic blood in the dugout.

 

Ken

 

But here's the problem we haven't won a WS in 97 because of the manager. I couldn't see another manager doing any better with this current team...

[Banedon]

Time to get rid of Dusty, and all of the coaches, Get a new younger skipper, and new blood on the coaching team. I have just gottin tired of lazy, non thinking players, getting picked off base and excusing that as hustle playing. Rainbows over the cut-off man allowing runners to advance, etc. We need to fix this team Mr. Hendry.. NOW

 

I actually agree with you. I've been a Cubs fan all my life, but we need some serious managment changes. Sometimes you have to get to the lowest low before someone realizes that maybe all the excuses are nothing more than a smokescreen for the real problem.

 

Dusty hasn't done terrible this year, but I think it's time for some new enthusiastic blood in the dugout.

 

Ken

 

But here's the problem we haven't won a WS in 97 because of the manager. I couldn't see another manager doing any better with this current team...

 

Dusty helped build this team though. He asked for the types of players he's gotten. If no one can win with this team, then lets get a manager that can help build one that can win. Do you think Dusty can do that?

[goonys evil twin]

As long as the MacPhail, Hendry and Hughes triumverate is able to make most personel decisions, this organization will never be fully fixed, or revitalized. They were able to bring the team to the level where success was expected, thanks guys, but they haven't brought the team to the next level, and it's highly doubtful they can. Getting rid of Dusty and the coaches could be nice, if they replace them properly, but if the organizational philosophy stays the same, it won't help much.

[C.C.]

Dusty helped build this team though. He asked for the types of players he's gotten. If no one can win with this team, then lets get a manager that can help build one that can win. Do you think Dusty can do that?

 

Wait a sec? Sure he asked for those type of players but he didn't ask for all these injuries either. It's not Dusty job to build a team it's Hendry's.

[badger1679666666]

Dusty helped build this team though. He asked for the types of players he's gotten. If no one can win with this team, then lets get a manager that can help build one that can win. Do you think Dusty can do that?

 

Wait a sec? Sure he asked for those type of players but he didn't ask for all these injuries either. It's not Dusty job to build a team it's Hendry's.

 

He's a craphole manager without injuries.

[C.C.]

Getting rid of Dusty and the coaches could be nice, if they replace them properly, but if the organizational philosophy stays the same, it won't help much.

 

That is perfect response Gooney and I agree with you!

[C.C.]

Dusty helped build this team though. He asked for the types of players he's gotten. If no one can win with this team, then lets get a manager that can help build one that can win. Do you think Dusty can do that?

 

Wait a sec? Sure he asked for those type of players but he didn't ask for all these injuries either. It's not Dusty job to build a team it's Hendry's.

 

He's a craphole manager without injuries.

 

Was he crap in 2003 with the proper players?

[LoneStarCubFan]

Dusty helped build this team though. He asked for the types of players he's gotten. If no one can win with this team, then lets get a manager that can help build one that can win. Do you think Dusty can do that?

 

Wait a sec? Sure he asked for those type of players but he didn't ask for all these injuries either. It's not Dusty job to build a team it's Hendry's.

 

It's also Hendry's job to tell Dusty he's an idiot for wanting Neifi Perez back for two freakin' years.

[badger1679666666]

Dusty helped build this team though. He asked for the types of players he's gotten. If no one can win with this team, then lets get a manager that can help build one that can win. Do you think Dusty can do that?

 

Wait a sec? Sure he asked for those type of players but he didn't ask for all these injuries either. It's not Dusty job to build a team it's Hendry's.

 

He's a craphole manager without injuries.

 

Was he crap in 2003 with the proper players?

 

Yes. Look at his managing.

[goonys evil twin]

Was he crap in 2003 with the proper players?

 

Yes, he was crap in 2003. The team won in spite of him. He's never been the right man for this job.

[Banedon]

Dusty helped build this team though. He asked for the types of players he's gotten. If no one can win with this team, then lets get a manager that can help build one that can win. Do you think Dusty can do that?

 

Wait a sec? Sure he asked for those type of players but he didn't ask for all these injuries either. It's not Dusty job to build a team it's Hendry's.

 

He's a craphole manager without injuries.

 

Was he crap in 2003 with the proper players?

 

They should have been better than they were in 2003. They barely won the division. They should have been leaps and bounds ahead.

[badger1679666666]

As Joe Sheehan from BP put it (paraphrased)on October 13th 2003 I believe:

 

The Cubs will never come this close to a World Series again under Dusty Baker.

 

He's crap. Total crap.

[Magnetic Curses]

Time to get rid of Dusty, and all of the coaches, Get a new younger skipper, and new blood on the coaching team. I have just gottin tired of lazy, non thinking players, getting picked off base and excusing that as hustle playing. Rainbows over the cut-off man allowing runners to advance, etc. We need to fix this team Mr. Hendry.. NOW

 

Sorry, I can't back that statement because I can't imagine true fans would want their team to lose.

 

fans with no foresight, anyway.

 

i, for one, want this team to get better, and the only way to that is for things to get worse.

 

i'd rather have the team finish with 60 wins, have the entire front office purged, hire someone who actually knows how to spend wisely and develop a different organizational philosophy than to middle through the season, finish with 70-80 wins, miss the playoffs, and have everyone who's part of the problem back next year. our current Iago, one mr. gary hughes, needs to be imprisoned and hit with a 500-mile restraining order.

 

the light must be seen by the tribune and it won't be seen with a mediocre team, this team must be exceptionally bad.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Time to get rid of Dusty, and all of the coaches, Get a new younger skipper, and new blood on the coaching team. I have just gottin tired of lazy, non thinking players, getting picked off base and excusing that as hustle playing. Rainbows over the cut-off man allowing runners to advance, etc. We need to fix this team Mr. Hendry.. NOW

 

Sorry, I can't back that statement because I can't imagine true fans would want their team to lose.

 

fans with no foresight, anyway.

 

i, for one, want this team to get better, and the only way to that is for things to get worse.

 

i'd rather have the team finish with 60 wins, have the entire front office purged, hire someone who actually knows how to spend wisely and develop a different organizational philosophy than to middle through the season, finish with 70-80 wins, miss the playoffs, and have everyone who's part of the problem back next year. our current Iago, one mr. gary hughes, needs to be imprisoned and hit with a 500-mile restraining order.

 

the light must be seen by the tribune and it won't be seen with a mediocre team, this team must be exceptionally bad.

 

It pains me to say it, but I agree. I want the team to defy all odds and win 95, but it looks more like 75. Injuries will once again be used as the excuse that gets Dusty, his entire staff, Neifi, Rusch, et al back for another crack at it next year. If they're going to be a bad team and miss the playoffs, I think it makes sense to want them to be bad enough that changes have to be made.

[goonys evil twin]

The worst thing they could do is finish around .500. That would mean no playoffs, but it could also mean everything will stay the same. If you are going to lose, lose big so change will be made (and you'll get a protected draft pick). But I'd much rather see them win.

[Magnetic Curses]

Time to get rid of Dusty, and all of the coaches, Get a new younger skipper, and new blood on the coaching team. I have just gottin tired of lazy, non thinking players, getting picked off base and excusing that as hustle playing. Rainbows over the cut-off man allowing runners to advance, etc. We need to fix this team Mr. Hendry.. NOW

 

Sorry, I can't back that statement because I can't imagine true fans would want their team to lose.

 

fans with no foresight, anyway.

 

i, for one, want this team to get better, and the only way to that is for things to get worse.

 

i'd rather have the team finish with 60 wins, have the entire front office purged, hire someone who actually knows how to spend wisely and develop a different organizational philosophy than to middle through the season, finish with 70-80 wins, miss the playoffs, and have everyone who's part of the problem back next year. our current Iago, one mr. gary hughes, needs to be imprisoned and hit with a 500-mile restraining order.

 

the light must be seen by the tribune and it won't be seen with a mediocre team, this team must be exceptionally bad.

 

It pains me to say it, but I agree. I want the team to defy all odds and win 95, but it looks more like 75. Injuries will once again be used as the excuse that gets Dusty, his entire staff, Neifi, Rusch, et al back for another crack at it next year. If they're going to be a bad team and miss the playoffs, I think it makes sense to want them to be bad enough that changes have to be made.

 

i'd be ecstatic if they hit a 30 game win streak and went on to win the series and everyone came back after that. at least i could go to my grave in peace.

[Chocolate Milk]

I agree with the above. I don't think mediocrity will ellict change. It also won't win the World Series. We need change. Badly.

[thedaymen]

What's the saying, "the enemy of the great is good" We can paraphrase that to the "enemy of good is mediocre."

[CubinNY]

As long as the MacPhail, Hendry and Hughes triumverate is able to make most personel decisions, this organization will never be fully fixed, or revitalized. They were able to bring the team to the level where success was expected, thanks guys, but they haven't brought the team to the next level, and it's highly doubtful they can. Getting rid of Dusty and the coaches could be nice, if they replace them properly, but if the organizational philosophy stays the same, it won't help much.

 

Goony, that post depresses me so much. It is true mind you, but deeply depressing.

[Neuby]

Who would we replace Dusty with?