Bruce Miles on the Score

[ltb]

[making mental note to come back to this thread in three weeks to see if everyone's "premonitions" come true or not...especially in light of so many similar "premonitions" that said Neife would be getting more PT than Cedeno at this point in the season.]

 

A lot of people saying Neifi would get more playing time is if Cedeno struggled, even for a short period of time. That has yet to happen, so obviously Cedeno is going to remain the starter while he's having success. Even Dusty isn't dumb enough to sit someone hitting as well as Ronny is right now.

 

I hate Dusty. he's an idiot and plays crappy players when he doesn't have to way too much. with that said, many said all winter that Neifi would get all the SS at the first sign of Cedeno struggles, then Cedeno struggled all spring. come openning day, Cedeno was the starting shortstop, so his point is well taken.

 

fwiw, cedeno was pretty much guaranteed the starting job going into spring training. if he struggled during the year like he did during the spring, neifi would probably be starting by now.

[Banedon]

[making mental note to come back to this thread in three weeks to see if everyone's "premonitions" come true or not...especially in light of so many similar "premonitions" that said Neife would be getting more PT than Cedeno at this point in the season.]

 

A lot of people saying Neifi would get more playing time is if Cedeno struggled, even for a short period of time. That has yet to happen, so obviously Cedeno is going to remain the starter while he's having success. Even Dusty isn't dumb enough to sit someone hitting as well as Ronny is right now.

 

I hate Dusty. he's an idiot and plays crappy players when he doesn't have to way too much. with that said, many said all winter that Neifi would get all the SS at the first sign of Cedeno struggles, then Cedeno struggled all spring. come openning day, Cedeno was the starting shortstop, so his point is well taken.

 

fwiw, cedeno was pretty much guaranteed the starting job going into spring training. if he struggled during the year like he did during the spring, neifi would probably be starting by now.

 

If I recall correctly, Bobby Hill was "pretty much guaranteed" the starting second base job and managed to lose it before the season started, so Baker should at least get credit for giving Cedeno the shot....

[badgercub]

[making mental note to come back to this thread in three weeks to see if everyone's "premonitions" come true or not...especially in light of so many similar "premonitions" that said Neife would be getting more PT than Cedeno at this point in the season.]

 

A lot of people saying Neifi would get more playing time is if Cedeno struggled, even for a short period of time. That has yet to happen, so obviously Cedeno is going to remain the starter while he's having success. Even Dusty isn't dumb enough to sit someone hitting as well as Ronny is right now.

 

I hate Dusty. he's an idiot and plays crappy players when he doesn't have to way too much. with that said, many said all winter that Neifi would get all the SS at the first sign of Cedeno struggles, then Cedeno struggled all spring. come openning day, Cedeno was the starting shortstop, so his point is well taken.

 

fwiw, cedeno was pretty much guaranteed the starting job going into spring training. if he struggled during the year like he did during the spring, neifi would probably be starting by now.

 

If I recall correctly, Bobby Hill was "pretty much guaranteed" the starting second base job and managed to lose it before the season started, so Baker should at least get credit for giving Cedeno the shot....

 

IIRC Hill got sick at the end of spring training and that is why he was not the starting second baseman

[SouthSideRyan]

[making mental note to come back to this thread in three weeks to see if everyone's "premonitions" come true or not...especially in light of so many similar "premonitions" that said Neife would be getting more PT than Cedeno at this point in the season.]

 

A lot of people saying Neifi would get more playing time is if Cedeno struggled, even for a short period of time. That has yet to happen, so obviously Cedeno is going to remain the starter while he's having success. Even Dusty isn't dumb enough to sit someone hitting as well as Ronny is right now.

 

I hate Dusty. he's an idiot and plays crappy players when he doesn't have to way too much. with that said, many said all winter that Neifi would get all the SS at the first sign of Cedeno struggles, then Cedeno struggled all spring. come openning day, Cedeno was the starting shortstop, so his point is well taken.

 

fwiw, cedeno was pretty much guaranteed the starting job going into spring training. if he struggled during the year like he did during the spring, neifi would probably be starting by now.

 

If I recall correctly, Bobby Hill was "pretty much guaranteed" the starting second base job and managed to lose it before the season started, so Baker should at least get credit for giving Cedeno the shot....

 

IIRC Hill got sick at the end of spring training and that is why he was not the starting second baseman

 

Nope, Hill was optioned first, then got sick.

[jjgman21]

[making mental note to come back to this thread in three weeks to see if everyone's "premonitions" come true or not...especially in light of so many similar "premonitions" that said Neife would be getting more PT than Cedeno at this point in the season.]

 

A lot of people saying Neifi would get more playing time is if Cedeno struggled, even for a short period of time. That has yet to happen, so obviously Cedeno is going to remain the starter while he's having success. Even Dusty isn't dumb enough to sit someone hitting as well as Ronny is right now.

 

I hate Dusty. he's an idiot and plays crappy players when he doesn't have to way too much. with that said, many said all winter that Neifi would get all the SS at the first sign of Cedeno struggles, then Cedeno struggled all spring. come openning day, Cedeno was the starting shortstop, so his point is well taken.

 

fwiw, cedeno was pretty much guaranteed the starting job going into spring training. if he struggled during the year like he did during the spring, neifi would probably be starting by now.

 

If I recall correctly, Bobby Hill was "pretty much guaranteed" the starting second base job and managed to lose it before the season started, so Baker should at least get credit for giving Cedeno the shot....

 

IIRC Hill got sick at the end of spring training and that is why he was not the starting second baseman

 

IIRC, he was sucking so bad he was no longer starting ST games before he got sick. he'd already lost the starting job.

Edited April 21, 2006 by jjgman21

[Dr. Cub]

Bruce is not for "messing with Walker too much." He feels that Todd should stay at 2B and Mabry (or Restovich) should play 1B.

 

He likes Murton batting in the 3 hole

 

His ideal lineup:

 

Pierre-CF

Walker-2B

Murton-LF

Ramirez-3B

Barrett-C

Jones-LF

Sub-1B

Cedeno-SS

Pitcher

 

Neifi in the late innings at 2B

 

He also thinks Hendry is looking for a trade but there isn't a realistic partner.

 

If that is how things shake out then I have to ask why Hairston is even on the team.

 

That's just Bruce's opinion. Stone suggested that Walker play 1B and Haiston 2B. No doubt Dusty is contemplating all of these options as I type.

 

What happens when you stop typing?

[Banedon]

Bruce is not for "messing with Walker too much." He feels that Todd should stay at 2B and Mabry (or Restovich) should play 1B.

 

He likes Murton batting in the 3 hole

 

His ideal lineup:

 

Pierre-CF

Walker-2B

Murton-LF

Ramirez-3B

Barrett-C

Jones-LF

Sub-1B

Cedeno-SS

Pitcher

 

Neifi in the late innings at 2B

 

He also thinks Hendry is looking for a trade but there isn't a realistic partner.

 

If that is how things shake out then I have to ask why Hairston is even on the team.

 

That's just Bruce's opinion. Stone suggested that Walker play 1B and Haiston 2B. No doubt Dusty is contemplating all of these options as I type.

 

What happens when you stop typing?

 

=D>

 

Well done!

[Blueheart05]

Bruce is not for "messing with Walker too much." He feels that Todd should stay at 2B and Mabry (or Restovich) should play 1B.

 

He likes Murton batting in the 3 hole

 

His ideal lineup:

 

Pierre-CF

Walker-2B

Murton-LF

Ramirez-3B

Barrett-C

Jones-LF

Sub-1B

Cedeno-SS

Pitcher

 

Neifi in the late innings at 2B

 

He also thinks Hendry is looking for a trade but there isn't a realistic partner.

 

If that is how things shake out then I have to ask why Hairston is even on the team.

 

That's just Bruce's opinion. Stone suggested that Walker play 1B and Haiston 2B. No doubt Dusty is contemplating all of these options as I type.

 

What happens when you stop typing?

 

LOL, the lineup was complete. :wink:

[goonys evil twin]

Bruce is not for "messing with Walker too much." He feels that Todd should stay at 2B and Mabry (or Restovich) should play 1B.

 

He likes Murton batting in the 3 hole

 

His ideal lineup:

 

Pierre-CF

Walker-2B

Murton-LF

Ramirez-3B

Barrett-C

Jones-LF

Sub-1B

Cedeno-SS

Pitcher

 

Neifi in the late innings at 2B

 

He also thinks Hendry is looking for a trade but there isn't a realistic partner.

 

If that is how things shake out then I have to ask why Hairston is even on the team.

 

That's just Bruce's opinion. Stone suggested that Walker play 1B and Haiston 2B. No doubt Dusty is contemplating all of these options as I type.

 

What happens when you stop typing?

 

LOL, the lineup was complete. :wink:

 

Please keep typing.

[Fred Hornkohl]

[making mental note to come back to this thread in three weeks to see if everyone's "premonitions" come true or not...especially in light of so many similar "premonitions" that said Neife would be getting more PT than Cedeno at this point in the season.]

 

A lot of people saying Neifi would get more playing time is if Cedeno struggled, even for a short period of time. That has yet to happen, so obviously Cedeno is going to remain the starter while he's having success. Even Dusty isn't dumb enough to sit someone hitting as well as Ronny is right now.

 

I hate Dusty. he's an idiot and plays crappy players when he doesn't have to way too much. with that said, many said all winter that Neifi would get all the SS at the first sign of Cedeno struggles, then Cedeno struggled all spring. come openning day, Cedeno was the starting shortstop, so his point is well taken.

 

fwiw, cedeno was pretty much guaranteed the starting job going into spring training. if he struggled during the year like he did during the spring, neifi would probably be starting by now.

 

I wouldn't call this a major struggle for Cedeno..........

 

04/11 - 04/14      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Cedeno             15    0    2    0    0    0    2    2    0    3  0.133  0.133  0.133  0.267

 

..... but it's worth noting that Dusty didn't flinch, and Cedeno kept playing.

[Fred Hornkohl]

The bigger question though is, will Dusty do it? It seems to me, for whatever reason(s) that Neifi will be at 2nd more than Hairston.

 

There's no reason to believe this won't be the case. Dusty shows an obvious preference for Neifi, so it seems likely that he will start at 2B in any games Walker either doesn't play or starts at 1B.

 

2006 starts at 2b

Player          starts
Walker            10
Hairston           3
Perez              1

 

Seems perfectly obvious to me.

[badgercub]

The bigger question though is, will Dusty do it? It seems to me, for whatever reason(s) that Neifi will be at 2nd more than Hairston.

 

There's no reason to believe this won't be the case. Dusty shows an obvious preference for Neifi, so it seems likely that he will start at 2B in any games Walker either doesn't play or starts at 1B.

 

2006 starts at 2b

Player          starts
Walker            10
Hairston           3
Perez              1

 

Seems perfectly obvious to me.

 

I think you would likely see a platoon with Hairston starting against lefties, of which there are quite a few in the Central. Just to add, when righties start you might see those are the games that Mabry plays first and TWalk at 2nd

[ltb]

The bigger question though is, will Dusty do it? It seems to me, for whatever reason(s) that Neifi will be at 2nd more than Hairston.

 

There's no reason to believe this won't be the case. Dusty shows an obvious preference for Neifi, so it seems likely that he will start at 2B in any games Walker either doesn't play or starts at 1B.

 

2006 starts at 2b

Player          starts
Walker            10
Hairston           3
Perez              1

 

Seems perfectly obvious to me.

 

guess who started at third base during those games?

 

exactly.

 

better luck next time.

[Chris]

The bigger question though is, will Dusty do it? It seems to me, for whatever reason(s) that Neifi will be at 2nd more than Hairston.

 

There's no reason to believe this won't be the case. Dusty shows an obvious preference for Neifi, so it seems likely that he will start at 2B in any games Walker either doesn't play or starts at 1B.

 

2006 starts at 2b

Player          starts
Walker            10
Hairston           3
Perez              1

 

Seems perfectly obvious to me.

 

guess who started at third base during those games?

 

exactly.

 

better luck next time.

 

:(

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I thought it was at least partially telling that Neifi was the one sent to replace Lee in the game and not Hairston.

[Fred Hornkohl]

The bigger question though is, will Dusty do it? It seems to me, for whatever reason(s) that Neifi will be at 2nd more than Hairston.

 

There's no reason to believe this won't be the case. Dusty shows an obvious preference for Neifi, so it seems likely that he will start at 2B in any games Walker either doesn't play or starts at 1B.

 

2006 starts at 2b

Player          starts
Walker            10
Hairston           3
Perez              1

 

Seems perfectly obvious to me.

 

guess who started at third base during those games?

 

exactly.

 

better luck next time.

 

Neifi only started at third base twice. Hairston's other start at second was on a day when Dusty could just as well have started Neifi, but he chose not to. The fact remains that Neifi has started exactly 1 game out 14 not due to an injury. This is a good thing.

[jjgman21]

The bigger question though is, will Dusty do it? It seems to me, for whatever reason(s) that Neifi will be at 2nd more than Hairston.

 

There's no reason to believe this won't be the case. Dusty shows an obvious preference for Neifi, so it seems likely that he will start at 2B in any games Walker either doesn't play or starts at 1B.

 

2006 starts at 2b

Player          starts
Walker            10
Hairston           3
Perez              1

 

Seems perfectly obvious to me.

 

guess who started at third base during those games?

 

exactly.

 

better luck next time.

 

during which games? the two games against the Reds that Aram missed because of a sore butt?

 

you are correct, the other third base replacement, left handed hitting John Mabry, did not get the start in those games against lefties Claussen and Milton.

[ltb]

Neifi only started at third base twice. Hairston's other start at second was on a day when Dusty could just as well have started Neifi, but he chose not to. The fact remains that Neifi has started exactly 1 game out 14 not due to an injury. This is a good thing.

 

Hairston has started one game that Neifi did not start. That's a bit more telling, I think.

 

In addition, Neifi replaced Lee in the game on Wednesday. I don't think it's unreasonable at all to believe that Neifi is going to get most of the starts at 2B that Walker doesn't get.

[A New Era]

The bigger question though is, will Dusty do it? It seems to me, for whatever reason(s) that Neifi will be at 2nd more than Hairston.

 

There's no reason to believe this won't be the case. Dusty shows an obvious preference for Neifi, so it seems likely that he will start at 2B in any games Walker either doesn't play or starts at 1B.

 

I hope to high hell that's not the case. With your best offensive force out of your line-up. What you do NOT do is put in your worst offensive force IN the line-up. You keep his butt out!

[ltb]

The bigger question though is, will Dusty do it? It seems to me, for whatever reason(s) that Neifi will be at 2nd more than Hairston.

 

There's no reason to believe this won't be the case. Dusty shows an obvious preference for Neifi, so it seems likely that he will start at 2B in any games Walker either doesn't play or starts at 1B.

 

I hope to high hell that's not the case. With your best offensive force out of your line-up. What you do NOT do is put in your worst offensive force IN the line-up. You keep his butt out!

 

Oh, I definitely hope it doesn't happen. But I have a feeling it will, sadly.

[badger1679666666]

The bigger question though is, will Dusty do it? It seems to me, for whatever reason(s) that Neifi will be at 2nd more than Hairston.

 

There's no reason to believe this won't be the case. Dusty shows an obvious preference for Neifi, so it seems likely that he will start at 2B in any games Walker either doesn't play or starts at 1B.

 

2006 starts at 2b

Player          starts
Walker            10
Hairston           3
Perez              1

 

Seems perfectly obvious to me.

 

guess who started at third base during those games?

 

exactly.

 

better luck next time.

 

I think you should do your research before commenting on "better luck next time".

 

Neifi started against the reds because Aram hurt his butt muscle. Our only other 3rd basemen is lefty and we played two lefty's.

 

Just an FYI.

[ltb]

I think you should do your research before commenting on "better luck next time".

 

Neifi started against the reds because Aram hurt his butt muscle. Our only other 3rd basemen is lefty and we played two lefty's.

 

Just an FYI.

 

I think you should quit assuming I don't know these things. I am well aware that Neifi started because Ramirez was hurt. That doesn't take away from the fact that he still started - how do you know Neifi wouldn't have started at 2B instead of Hairston if Ramirez was healthy?

 

Exactly - you don't. Quit making unreasonable assumptions and attacking how informed I am.

 

Just an FYI.

[jjgman21]

In addition, Neifi replaced Lee in the game on Wednesday.

 

you mean the game in which the Cubs back up first baseman, John Mabry, had already left the game at the time of Lee's injury?

[badger1679666666]

I think you should do your research before commenting on "better luck next time".

 

Neifi started against the reds because Aram hurt his butt muscle. Our only other 3rd basemen is lefty and we played two lefty's.

 

Just an FYI.

 

I think you should quit assuming I don't know these things. I am well aware that Neifi started because Ramirez was hurt. That doesn't take away from the fact that he still started - how do you know Neifi wouldn't have started at 2B instead of Hairston if Ramirez was healthy?

 

Exactly - you don't. Quit making unreasonable assumptions and attacking how informed I am.

 

Just an FYI.

 

No one does, but Neifi's starts at 3rd when Aramis is hurt. If you want to spin those starts as Dusty preferring neifi do so by all means, but this year Dusty has used Neifi just about as appropriately as one could ask for. No one's attacking anything about you - but your argument with Neifi starting 3rd doesn't apply to the 2b situation.

 

And you're right no one knows who would start at 2b those games. I'm sure one would have been neifi and one would have jerry. regardless even if Aram was healthy and Neifi started BOTH games you would have

10-3-1 still just swapping Neifi and Jerry. That is unless Neifi can play two positions at the same time.

 

Exactly.

 

Better luck next time.

[ltb]

In addition, Neifi replaced Lee in the game on Wednesday.

 

you mean the game in which the Cubs back up first baseman, John Mabry, had already left the game at the time of Lee's injury?

 

hairston was still on the bench :)