Daily vs Weekly lineup changes

[Tim]

Would you prefer to have the ability to change your lineup at will on a daily basis (favored by Bonds owners around the world) or should lineups be set weekly and only changed because of injury or other transaction? Edited April 4, 2006 by Tim

[Guest]

Before I cast my vote, I've got a question for those in favor of daily lineup changes:

 

What is to prevent me from stocking my team with a whole bunch of reserve pitchers every week and getting something like 12 starts during a seven day stretch? Should there be an option for weekly pitching changes and daily lineup changes?

[Vinestal]

hmmm Id be for the daily lineup but weekly pitching changes. You bring up a good point

[goonys evil twin]

Before I cast my vote, I've got a question for those in favor of daily lineup changes:

 

What is to prevent me from stocking my team with a whole bunch of reserve pitchers every week and getting something like 12 starts during a seven day stretch? Should there be an option for weekly pitching changes and daily lineup changes?

 

Well, seemingly you wouldn't be the only one able to do that, so the market should balance that out. But with negative points for bad things, there's not really a benefit from constantly starting reserve pitchers, who presumably won't be that good. And couldn't you put a reasonable limit on total innings pitched from your team by the end of the season?

[Banedon]

I could get behind the weekly pitching / daily lineup changes.

 

I guess my thought process is this. If I'm a fantasy "manager", I can make daily changes to put the best lineup on the field based on the matchups, but most of the time I'm going to stick to my pitching rotation. So that seems to coincide well with the weekly pitching / daily lineup changes.

[Guest]

Hmm. How can I let people change their vote if I add another choice without starting another entire poll? Rats, I don't think there's a way. :(

 

unless...

[Guest]

Okay, sorry to make everyone vote again, but please do so. :D

[goonys evil twin]

Okay, sorry to make everyone vote again, but please do so. :D

 

If Daily gets 3 votes, weekly gets 4 votes, and option 3 gets 2 votes, what will be the decision?

[Guest]

Okay, sorry to make everyone vote again, but please do so. :D

 

If Daily gets 3 votes, weekly gets 4 votes, and option 3 gets 2 votes, what will be the decision?

Depends on who offers the biggest bribe. :D

 

I guess it would be weekly in that case.

[goonys evil twin]

Okay, sorry to make everyone vote again, but please do so. :D

 

If Daily gets 3 votes, weekly gets 4 votes, and option 3 gets 2 votes, what will be the decision?

Depends on who offers the biggest bribe. :D

 

I guess it would be weekly in that case.

 

Well, this seems unfair. It's like splitting the vote of people who think weekly is unfair.

 

It's the summer, there are a lot of Sundays/Mondays when I will be unable to access a computer to make a move. I would rank them daily, option 3, then weekly if there was a ranking. And I'm guessing those people who voted daily to start would do the same.

 

Clearly weekly is the less desirable option if the majority is voting for some sort of daily opportunity to make changes.

[Guest]

Okay, sorry to make everyone vote again, but please do so. :D

 

If Daily gets 3 votes, weekly gets 4 votes, and option 3 gets 2 votes, what will be the decision?

Depends on who offers the biggest bribe. :D

 

I guess it would be weekly in that case.

 

Well, this seems unfair. It's like splitting the vote of people who think weekly is unfair.

 

It's the summer, there are a lot of Sundays/Mondays when I will be unable to access a computer to make a move. I would rank them daily, option 3, then weekly if there was a ranking. And I'm guessing those people who voted daily to start would do the same.

 

Clearly weekly is the less desirable option if the majority is voting for some sort of daily opportunity to make changes.

How can I make this as fair as possible? Would you like a runoff amongst the two most popular choices out of three if there's only a plurality winner?

[goonys evil twin]

How can I make this as fair as possible? Would you like a runoff amongst the two most popular choices out of three if there's only a plurality winner?

 

Sure.

 

Although I still don't see the problem with allowing people to make changes whenever they want. We don't all have the same internet usage patterns. And I don't have Bonds on my team.

[Guest]

How can I make this as fair as possible? Would you like a runoff amongst the two most popular choices out of three if there's only a plurality winner?

 

Sure.

 

Although I still don't see the problem with allowing people to make changes whenever they want. We don't all have the same internet usage patterns. And I don't have Bonds on my team.

because while you may have irregular access on certain sunday/mondays, others may not have daily access to manager their teams. Which would make daily lineup changes unfair to them.

[goonys evil twin]

How can I make this as fair as possible? Would you like a runoff amongst the two most popular choices out of three if there's only a plurality winner?

 

Sure.

 

Although I still don't see the problem with allowing people to make changes whenever they want. We don't all have the same internet usage patterns. And I don't have Bonds on my team.

because while you may have irregular access on certain sunday/mondays, others may not have daily access to manager their teams. Which would make daily lineup changes unfair to them.

 

Well I know for a fact I'll never have it on a Saturday or Sunday during the summer, and I won't complain if others use it then. Besides, it's much less fair to not allow people to make a change for 2 or more weeks in a row than it is for some people to be able to make a change everyday and others to have to wait a day. The point is you still have the right to make a change when you have access. With weekly change if you aren't at your computer during the arbitrarily assigned time limit, then it's tough luck.

 

I don't do much fantasy stuff, but every league I've been in has allowed for changes whenever you want (outside of waiver pickups, trade deadlines and in-game moves). And the participants have had a wide range of how often they check. Some go on all day. Some go on once a day, some check it once or twice a week. But the point is you give people the choice to manage however they choose.

[stitchface]

Okay, sorry to make everyone vote again, but please do so. :D

 

If Daily gets 3 votes, weekly gets 4 votes, and option 3 gets 2 votes, what will be the decision?

Depends on who offers the biggest bribe. :D

 

I guess it would be weekly in that case.

 

Well, this seems unfair. It's like splitting the vote of people who think weekly is unfair.

 

It's the summer, there are a lot of Sundays/Mondays when I will be unable to access a computer to make a move. I would rank them daily, option 3, then weekly if there was a ranking. And I'm guessing those people who voted daily to start would do the same.

 

Clearly weekly is the less desirable option if the majority is voting for some sort of daily opportunity to make changes.

 

You can set your lineup for each week months in advance so this isn't really an issue. I'm ok either way though.

[Guest]

How can I make this as fair as possible? Would you like a runoff amongst the two most popular choices out of three if there's only a plurality winner?

 

Sure.

 

Although I still don't see the problem with allowing people to make changes whenever they want. We don't all have the same internet usage patterns. And I don't have Bonds on my team.

because while you may have irregular access on certain sunday/mondays, others may not have daily access to manager their teams. Which would make daily lineup changes unfair to them.

 

Well I know for a fact I'll never have it on a Saturday or Sunday during the summer, and I won't complain if others use it then. Besides, it's much less fair to not allow people to make a change for 2 or more weeks in a row than it is for some people to be able to make a change everyday and others to have to wait a day. The point is you still have the right to make a change when you have access. With weekly change if you aren't at your computer during the arbitrarily assigned time limit, then it's tough luck.

 

I don't do much fantasy stuff, but every league I've been in has allowed for changes whenever you want (outside of waiver pickups, trade deadlines and in-game moves). And the participants have had a wide range of how often they check. Some go on all day. Some go on once a day, some check it once or twice a week. But the point is you give people the choice to manage however they choose.

If we end up with weekly lineup changes, I can set the lineup for you on Sunday/Monday if you let me know what you want.

[goonys evil twin]

Okay, sorry to make everyone vote again, but please do so. :D

 

If Daily gets 3 votes, weekly gets 4 votes, and option 3 gets 2 votes, what will be the decision?

Depends on who offers the biggest bribe. :D

 

I guess it would be weekly in that case.

 

Well, this seems unfair. It's like splitting the vote of people who think weekly is unfair.

 

It's the summer, there are a lot of Sundays/Mondays when I will be unable to access a computer to make a move. I would rank them daily, option 3, then weekly if there was a ranking. And I'm guessing those people who voted daily to start would do the same.

 

Clearly weekly is the less desirable option if the majority is voting for some sort of daily opportunity to make changes.

 

You can set your lineup for each week months in advance so this isn't really an issue. I'm ok either way though.

 

Then somebody who doesn't have daily access can set his in advance. I still don't see the point in limiting the ability to manage your team, especially to such a small window. Obviously most people want some sort of daily ability to change, as it 4 people have voted for that, compared to 2 for weekly, and it was 3-1 before the revote.

 

And we all know things change on a daily basis, so pretending you can set your lineup months out and that will help is not really honest. As long as you get the change in before gametime, you should be able to make it. With negative points for negative results, it's not like somebody who constantly shuffles in reserves has an inherent advantage.

[stitchface]

not really honest? I think its quite honest and a statement of fact. The reality is you can set your lineup on Friday for the next week so there is no problem with you not having access on Saturday and Sunday. I find daily changes tedious come July and that most people stop paying attention on a daily basis. Weekly changes keep people more engaged on a regular basis. I don't care either way but I don't think your argument holds much water.

[goonys evil twin]

not really honest? I think its quite honest and a statement of fact. The reality is you can set your lineup on Friday for the next week so there is no problem with you not having access on Saturday and Sunday. I find daily changes tedious come July and that most people stop paying attention on a daily basis. Weekly changes keep people more engaged on a regular basis. I don't care either way but I don't think your argument holds much water.

 

Your argument is that you get bored with daily changes by July, so others shouldn't be allowed to, and mine doesn't hold water?

 

My argument is that only allowing roster changes in a very limited window is arbitrary and unfair. I don't see any reason why I, or anybody else, should be locked into a roster decision made days in advance. I just don't see the point. And since most people have voted for some sort of ability to change more frequently than once a week, I think others agree with me.

 

FYI:

The "not honest" comment was in regards to the idea that since you can set your lineups months in advance, it doesn't matter how frequently you get access to that. That's akin to suggesting we all set our lineups today and leave them the same way for the rest of the season.

 

And what about people who ended up with a bad roster when they were away for the draft? If somebody has 3 good outfielders who can play everyday, but another person's OF is weak and needs a platoon to contend, why can't that person choose to platoon as the season goes on. This seems to doubly reward people who had a better draft, and I at least didn't even see this rule until after the draft.

[stitchface]

not really honest? I think its quite honest and a statement of fact. The reality is you can set your lineup on Friday for the next week so there is no problem with you not having access on Saturday and Sunday. I find daily changes tedious come July and that most people stop paying attention on a daily basis. Weekly changes keep people more engaged on a regular basis. I don't care either way but I don't think your argument holds much water.

 

Your argument is that you get bored with daily changes by July, so others shouldn't be allowed to, and mine doesn't hold water?

 

My argument is that only allowing roster changes in a very limited window is arbitrary and unfair. I don't see any reason why I, or anybody else, should be locked into a roster decision made days in advance. I just don't see the point. And since most people have voted for some sort of ability to change more frequently than once a week, I think others agree with me.

 

FYI:

The "not honest" comment was in regards to the idea that since you can set your lineups months in advance, it doesn't matter how frequently you get access to that. That's akin to suggesting we all set our lineups today and leave them the same way for the rest of the season.

 

And what about people who ended up with a bad roster when they were away for the draft? If somebody has 3 good outfielders who can play everyday, but another person's OF is weak and needs a platoon to contend, why can't that person choose to platoon as the season goes on. This seems to doubly reward people who had a better draft, and I at least didn't even see this rule until after the draft.

 

 

no, my argument is that other people get bored and that hurts the competition. the roster deadline is not arbitrary because you set your roster for each game on the day before the game begins. hence for each game (one week) you have a set lineup. makes perfect sense.

[Guest]

I'm in favor of weekly lineup changes. Of course I'm biased because I tend to be a set it and forget it fantasy owner as opposed to one who shuffles his lineups every day looking for good matchups.

 

Either way it won't really affect how I manage my team. Aside from adjusting for injuries and trades I won't spend a lot of time swapping players in and out of the lineup, regardless of how often I'm allowed to do it.

[Banedon]

Good to see we have a clear consensus...:P

[moochpuppy]

The only problem I have is with the waiver availability. It says a player will be available Monday morning but I can't get access to the site at work and leave my house at 6am. It would better if waiver players were available on Sunday morning giving us at least 24 hours to get them into our lineup for the new week.

[goonys evil twin]

Good to see we have a clear consensus...:P

 

7-4 against forcing people to only make weekly changes.

[Guest]

Dang. So I'm the only one that hasn't voted and it sits at 4-4-3.

 

We've heard some passionate speaking on behalf of daily. Anyone want to speak as strongly in favor of weekly?