Cubs Should look at Trot

[b_wiggy_66]

I think that the Cubs should look at getting Trot Nixon. Lets face it Abreu isnt coming. There have been articles that say that Floyd isnt on the market, Ibanez isnt on the market, Wilkerson already got moved, and no interest in Luis Gonzalez. Huff and Shawn Green may be able to be had but the D-Rays want a lot for Huff and Green has a big contract. However with Trot Nixon he is a good left handed hitter who plays good defense and has a very good arm. He will hit 20-25 homers drive in about 75 and have an OBP. of about .370 also look at these numbers

Day: .316 Night: .254

 

Not bad I think he could be had straight up for Patterson and would be a good left handed right fielder.

[Drew Doughty]

He can't hit lefties.

[Brian]

I don't think Boston wants Patterson, especially after they sign Damon.

[BCVM22]

He can't hit lefties. At all. Period. I think if you were to properly platoon Nixon, and say, Kevin Mench, who mashes lefties but doesn't handle righties nearly as well, it might produce a capable RF tandem.

 

However, that would require:

A. Our GM to make the trade deals for both Nixon and Mench.

B. Our manager to properly platoon the two.

[Backtobanks]

He can't hit lefties.

 

Get Mench and platoon them. As for the fact he can't hit lefties, Patterson can't hit either righties or lefties.

[JeffH]

Mench would cost too much in trade to be platooned.

 

Craig Wilson will likely be available for a song, if he's not non-tendered.

[Drew Doughty]

Patterson doesn't get trotted out there everyday when he struggles, either. Plus, why not just acquire one good hitter, instead of wasting two roster spots and more players, potentially on one position.

 

Also you're assuming we have a competent manager, which we don't.

[b_wiggy_66]

Theres not many other option out there. For the ones that are I would say this is how I would rate how much I want to get them

 

1) Huff(will cost a lot and may not be as available as ppl think)

2) Green (expensive and probly off Hendrys radar)

3) Nixon (not as good but can play ball and is a hardnose player)

[JeffH]

Wilson is sure to be overpaid, but he and Kerry Wood could pose for some cool photos together.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

He can't hit lefties.

 

How often do you face a lefty? 15, 20, 25% of the time? I don't see that as a huge deal considering he still has an OBP of .305 against lefties the past 3 years. Sure, that's uglier than you'd like, but it's .395 against the other 80% of pitchers out there.

[b_wiggy_66]

The main point is, he is a good player that could be had for less than the others.

[Drew Doughty]

He can't hit lefties.

 

How often do you face a lefty? 15, 20, 25% of the time? I don't see that as a huge deal considering he still has an OBP of .305 against lefties the past 3 years. Sure, that's uglier than you'd like, but it's .395 against the other 80% of pitchers out there.

 

slightly less than 25%. And it's not a .305 OBP, it's a 306 slugging percentage. In 85 abs against lefties last year, he had 4 xbhs

 

40 games out of the year he's rendered useless. Sorry, no thanks. He's only a last option if Wilkerson, Bradley, Abreu, Huff, etc fall through.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

He can't hit lefties.

 

How often do you face a lefty? 15, 20, 25% of the time? I don't see that as a huge deal considering he still has an OBP of .305 against lefties the past 3 years. Sure, that's uglier than you'd like, but it's .395 against the other 80% of pitchers out there.

 

slightly less than 25%. And it's not a .305 OBP, it's a 306 slugging percentage. In 85 abs against lefties last year, he had 4 xbhs

 

40 games out of the year he's rendered useless. Sorry, no thanks. He's only a last option if Wilkerson, Bradley, Abreu, Huff, etc fall through.

 

You mean Huff of the 701 OPS vs lefties? Not much of an improvement there. Or Wilkerson of the 737 OPS vs righties where he'll get thrice as many PA's? No thanks. I've made my feelings about Bradley well known. No thanks. Abreu would be fantastic, but it's not going to happen.

[Drew Doughty]

So you'll take Trots 639 OPS forty games out of the year?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

So you'll take Trots 639 OPS forty games out of the year?

 

I'll take him for that 847 OPS the other 122 games and for the 955 OPS against righties he put up in the 3 years prior to last.

[Drew Doughty]

Wasn't one of your arguements against Bradley health? Trot hasn't had more than 500 abs since 2002. A lot of that is likely due to his poor numbers against lefties, but he's been injured each of the last two seasons and is coming off of his worst year. That arguement was used againt Pierre any time he was brought up.

[Cubzfan64]

Trot plays the game ALL OUT which is admirable and makes him a real fan favorite.... however it also means he doesn't normally make it through the season without an injury.

 

I would have no problem whatsoever having him as part of a platoon in RF, but I don't particularily like his salary.

[Omar]

*expected a baby bear eating trout reference*

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Wasn't one of your arguements against Bradley health? Trot hasn't had more than 500 abs since 2002. A lot of that is likely due to his poor numbers against lefties, but he's been injured each of the last two seasons and is coming off of his worst year. That arguement was used againt Pierre any time he was brought up.

 

My biggest argument against Bradley is that I have no respect for him as a person. And this is really no comparison. Trot has averaged 120+ games per season over the last 7 years, and that includes the 48 games he played in 2004. Bradley has only played in more than 120 games ONCE and more than 100 twice (once was 101). Bradley has only had one season with more than 500 AB's. The next closest is 377. Bradley seems to always be injured and is coming off one of his best years. The others were average at best.

 

As far as your Pierre reference goes, I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Drew Doughty]

Yeah, I don't even know why I brought up Pierre. Forgot who I was arguing with I guess.

 

Nixon's only had 500+ abs twice, which is one more than Bradley in 2 more seasons. Bradley will be 28 around the start of next season, Nixon will be 32.

 

Arguements can definitely be made for both, but I'll take Bradley, personal issues aside.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Yeah, I don't even know why I brought up Pierre. Forgot who I was arguing with I guess.

 

Nixon's only had 500+ abs twice, which is one more than Bradley in 2 more seasons. Bradley will be 28 around the start of next season, Nixon will be 32.

 

Arguements can definitely be made for both, but I'll take Bradley, personal issues aside.

 

I don't even know why I'm defending Nixon, other than I'm starting to think he's the best alternative outside of Shawn Green that we have a realistic shot at.

[jjgman21]

alot is being made of Bradley's injury history. has anyone looked into the types of injuries he has suffered?

 

his low game and AB totals in 2001 is due to splitting time in the outfield, not injury, and before last year his missed time was due to multiple short stints on the DL.

 

are these hammies and twisted ankles or does he have one injury over and over?

[MPrior]

Maybe I'm just willing to settle, but I'd much much much rather have Trot Nixon than Kevin Mench. I'd almost certainly rather have him than Austin Kearns. And a pretty compelling case can be made over Bradley, considering that even with Trot's ugly splits against lefties, he still produces more like a corner outfielder than Bradley does. Plus, he less of an injury risk and not a headcase.

 

All that said, I don't think Trot is the best option for this team. But he's FAR from the worst, and I would not at all be unhappy if we got him.