4 Chicago Cubs Make Baseball Prospectus's 2025 Top 101 Prospects List

So Jed traded away what would have been our top two prospects within 12 months for a 2-3 war 1b and one year of Tucker?

Am I getting this right?

5 minutes ago, JunkyardWalrus said:

So Jed traded away what would have been our top two prospects within 12 months for a 2-3 war 1b and one year of Tucker?

Am I getting this right?

According to BP, yes. But BP isn't gospel. I'm sure if you asked the Cubs, they wouldn't agree with you. It's a good reminder that the industry has their rankings, but teams have their own internal rankings. Cam Smith wasn't even a guaranteed top-10 prospect in the draft last summer according to MLB teams. 

At the time the Cubs traded Hope, it's important to remember, as well, he had 43 PA's in the MiLB, was an 11th round selection who got $400,000 signing bonus - that of a around a 3rd round pick. Yes, Hope has some real helium right now. But if the Cubs traded Eli Lovach (their most recent, 11th round, 18 year old pick) for Michael Busch, they would almost assuredly be winning that trade a year later. It sucks Hope blew up - but this so far is a very rare and outlier outcome. Ferris was the prize there, and Hope was much more of an intriguing, 18 year old flier. 

wasnt BP the outlet that comped brendan harris to albert pujols? sure that was 50 years and probably 200 staff writers ago, but that's the copium im clinging to baby

16 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

According to BP, yes. But BP isn't gospel. I'm sure if you asked the Cubs, they wouldn't agree with you. It's a good reminder that the industry has their rankings, but teams have their own internal rankings. Cam Smith wasn't even a guaranteed top-10 prospect in the draft last summer according to MLB teams. 

At the time the Cubs traded Hope, it's important to remember, as well, he had 43 PA's in the MiLB, was an 11th round selection who got $400,000 signing bonus - that of a around a 3rd round pick. Yes, Hope has some real helium right now. But if the Cubs traded Eli Lovach (their most recent, 11th round, 18 year old pick) for Michael Busch, they would almost assuredly be winning that trade a year later. It sucks Hope blew up - but this so far is a very rare and outlier outcome. Ferris was the prize there, and Hope was much more of an intriguing, 18 year old flier. 

Fair. 

I was conflating Hope with Ferris for whatever reason. Yeah, that is pretty flukey you are absolutely correct. Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

If they extend Tucker I'll be less cranky.

Edit: Opening day of Cubs convention is his birthday. Seems a little obvious to announce an extension then, I know, but I'd let it slide.

4 minutes ago, imb said:

wasnt BP the outlet that comped brendan harris to albert pujols? sure that was 50 years and probably 200 staff writers ago, but that's the copium im clinging to baby

This will get called sour grapes. but the Dodgers perpetually have these breakout performances in the extremely hitter friendly Low A California League.  Their players annual pepper throughout top 100 lists and yet the best position player they've produced since COVID is Michael Busch.  

Just now, JunkyardWalrus said:

Fair. 

I was conflating Hope with Ferris for whatever reason. Yeah, that is pretty flukey you are absolutely correct. Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

If they extend Tucker I'll be less cranky.

No worries! I(t's easy getting emotional about prospects. Especially the baby ones like Zyhir Hope. There seems to be a correlation between perceived ceiling and ETA in that prospects further away feel more "unknown" (with less data comes less obvious flaws, as well, with less data more could happen!). It'll be interesting to see where we are on Hope in a year or two, especially. Like he looks really good right now, but maybe he's just really bad at sweepers or something and we'll find out later.