YearofDaCubs

Our special teams were terrible, our coaching staff did not adjust to the Panthers. I also noticed it took us a while to get going and I believe it is because of the long layoff. After watching Indyand ourselves I hope we do not see that many teams miss so much time because of risking their starters. I think Grossman did pretty good considering the lack of playing time he had. If he stays healthy he will be our QB of the future. For those that think Orton would have been better they are mistaken. Our defense never adjusted and we were embarrassed to say the least.

Chandler is not worth the money he is getting.

The Panthers won fair and square. Actually, they dominated. Our defense was terrible. Why in the heck would they put Thompson(who only played once against the Vikings) one on on with Smith? Tillman looked bad and overall our entire defense pretty much did. Our defense did enough but when our defense couldn't stop anybody what do you expect? We need a TE and CB.

I'm so happy to see NE lose. Finally. I hope this is the last we hear about dynasty talks and how Brady is a god among QBs.

Wood will work out of the pen? This has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have heard. Why in the heck is Baker still part of this organization?

I hope you are right. Seriously, I would hate to see Cedeno or Prior traded.

Good news...if it's true.

No I don't. I don't think Hendry does either. And we don't know if he was offered a deal or if he himself offered prior. But regardless, your criticism in this thread did not appear to be about the deal (since we weren't discussing the deal) but more about how Hendry "handled it". Which is the part that I think is ludicrous. If he was just taking "offers" for prior, and Prior got peeved about it, that's not Hendry's fault. His job is to listen to all/any offers on the table, reject those that are bad and think about ones that might help the team. That's all I'm saying. It seemed from your post on the front page you were criticising how Hendry handled the whole thing (when it appears he wasn't offering Prior in the end anyway), not the actual deal - which we weren't discussing. Look at my "location" if you need any direction. but "The great Hendry, what can I tell you" was flat out a jab at Hendry's handling of the situation if Prior becomes peeved, which is flat out wrong. If prior gets peeved, I'd tell him to suck it up and be a professional. (And then tell him he's my second favorite Cub behind Wood). It is a flat out jab at Hendry because the trade leaked out everywhere. It probably did not come from Hendry's side but when you are making some of your best players available for trade and what not if they find out there are time where it could bite you on the back end. I definitely do not want Prior traded for Tejada and who even knows how close the trade was to come to fruition but at the same time I'm getting sick and tired of the way Hendry is managing this organization. I have zero confidence in him and the fact that this trade info came out just proves that to me. We have regressed ever since 2004 and that isn't a good sign. I want to see a playoff contending team on board instead of seeing him pay for mediocre talent left and right. I will take all the jabs I want at Hendry because frankly they are warranted. You can do what you want to do. But taking Jabs when they aren't warrented takes away from credibility when they ARE. With everything that's coming out recently, it appears Hendry never offered prior for anything, he was merely asked about him. If that's hendry screwing up, then I must be an idiot. Everything you said is fine, zero confidence, sick of this organization, sick of Hendry's bad moves, inactivity. However, He didn't mishandle prior in this situation. Period. If you continue to assert that he did, I'm going to continue to argue with you. How are you 100% sure that Hendry did not offer Prior for Tejada? Too many sources were confirming the possible trade for it not to be true if you ask me. I'm not a 100 % sure, but it appears everything was blown out of proportion - it appears Levines scoop was bunk, Rosenthal was full of BS (like usual) and sources have stated they didn't offer up prior, Hendry was asked about prior and listened. I don't know for sure, but it doesn't appear like Hendry was actively shopping him. And for the very reason I don't know, I tend to like to keep my jabs to stuff I do know - like Rusch, PErez resignings, not adequately filling the RF problem, signing jockstrap, insisting on trading Walker etc. To your defense I will say trading Prior for offense from the get-go didn't make sense considering how our SP has its ? marks. I also think it is possible Levine started up with the story AFTER the other journalist brought it up and he was nonchalant about it like he knew it was going down yet never mentioned it until the other person did first. Either way when I heard Prior was upset about the trade and so forth to me that just showed me the somehow someway the Cubs org found another way to screw up and cut ties with one of their best pitchers.

No I don't. I don't think Hendry does either. And we don't know if he was offered a deal or if he himself offered prior. But regardless, your criticism in this thread did not appear to be about the deal (since we weren't discussing the deal) but more about how Hendry "handled it". Which is the part that I think is ludicrous. If he was just taking "offers" for prior, and Prior got peeved about it, that's not Hendry's fault. His job is to listen to all/any offers on the table, reject those that are bad and think about ones that might help the team. That's all I'm saying. It seemed from your post on the front page you were criticising how Hendry handled the whole thing (when it appears he wasn't offering Prior in the end anyway), not the actual deal - which we weren't discussing. Look at my "location" if you need any direction. but "The great Hendry, what can I tell you" was flat out a jab at Hendry's handling of the situation if Prior becomes peeved, which is flat out wrong. If prior gets peeved, I'd tell him to suck it up and be a professional. (And then tell him he's my second favorite Cub behind Wood). It is a flat out jab at Hendry because the trade leaked out everywhere. It probably did not come from Hendry's side but when you are making some of your best players available for trade and what not if they find out there are time where it could bite you on the back end. I definitely do not want Prior traded for Tejada and who even knows how close the trade was to come to fruition but at the same time I'm getting sick and tired of the way Hendry is managing this organization. I have zero confidence in him and the fact that this trade info came out just proves that to me. We have regressed ever since 2004 and that isn't a good sign. I want to see a playoff contending team on board instead of seeing him pay for mediocre talent left and right. I will take all the jabs I want at Hendry because frankly they are warranted. You can do what you want to do. But taking Jabs when they aren't warrented takes away from credibility when they ARE. With everything that's coming out recently, it appears Hendry never offered prior for anything, he was merely asked about him. If that's hendry screwing up, then I must be an idiot. Everything you said is fine, zero confidence, sick of this organization, sick of Hendry's bad moves, inactivity. However, He didn't mishandle prior in this situation. Period. If you continue to assert that he did, I'm going to continue to argue with you. How are you 100% sure that Hendry did not offer Prior for Tejada? Too many sources were confirming the possible trade for it not to be true if you ask me.

No I don't. I don't think Hendry does either. And we don't know if he was offered a deal or if he himself offered prior. But regardless, your criticism in this thread did not appear to be about the deal (since we weren't discussing the deal) but more about how Hendry "handled it". Which is the part that I think is ludicrous. If he was just taking "offers" for prior, and Prior got peeved about it, that's not Hendry's fault. His job is to listen to all/any offers on the table, reject those that are bad and think about ones that might help the team. That's all I'm saying. It seemed from your post on the front page you were criticising how Hendry handled the whole thing (when it appears he wasn't offering Prior in the end anyway), not the actual deal - which we weren't discussing. Look at my "location" if you need any direction. but "The great Hendry, what can I tell you" was flat out a jab at Hendry's handling of the situation if Prior becomes peeved, which is flat out wrong. If prior gets peeved, I'd tell him to suck it up and be a professional. (And then tell him he's my second favorite Cub behind Wood). It is a flat out jab at Hendry because the trade leaked out everywhere. It probably did not come from Hendry's side but when you are making some of your best players available for trade and what not if they find out there are times where it could bite you on the back end. I definitely do not want Prior traded for Tejada and who even knows how close the trade was to come to fruition but at the same time I'm getting sick and tired of the way Hendry is managing this organization. I have zero confidence in him and the fact that this trade info came out just proves that to me. We have regressed ever since 2004 and that isn't a good sign. I want to see a playoff contending team on board instead of seeing him pay for mediocre talent left and right. I will take all the jabs I want at Hendry because frankly they are warranted.

I really don't think the cubs organization had anything to do with him being labelled injury prone at all. How can you possibly lay that blame on them? Dude seriously, is there anything that isn't Hendry's fault? Global Warming? Healthcare Costs? Hendry has every right to look into deals for any players to make the team better. He shouldn't need to coddle players, and as much as I love Prior (2nd favorite player on the Cubs) he shouldn't be in a tizzy because his name was perhaps mentioned to see what it could get. I think you should join ndistops bandwagon, because I doubt your attitude will ever change short of a WS championship. Dude seriously, A lot of things pertaining to the Cubs are indeed Hendry's fault. Keep sugarcoating it for yourself, I know better. I'm not asking for a WS chamiponship I'm asking for us to at least make the playoffs. If you think having a good year and not making the playoffs is possible that's on you. That's my whole point. There ARE SO MANY things they've done wrong or poorly. Hendry trying to see if a deal exists (and he may not have at all) is not grounds for ripping him. I don't want Prior traded, but there is nothing wrong with Hendry entertaining deals, that's his JOB. Instead you wish to rip him for everything this side of the sun, when you have plenty of grounds to rip him for valid things. I think it's incredibly stupid to blame Hendry for seing if Prior could bring back value to make the team even stronger. You make a backhanded rip at him for it. That's ridiculous in my eyes. Just stick to ripping him for what he does wrong (all of the 2004 post season, and most of the 2005 post season) not for trying to see if he could improve this team. You're comments aren't asking for a WS or playoff appearance, they are ripping Hendry for any and everything you can possibly muster within that contenious outlook you have. Seriously, reread your post and tell me that there is one shred of validity to it? Particiulary if the rumors are true, and Hendry never OFFERED him up. Do you honestly think a Prior for Tejada makes this team better? I don't think so. I don't doubt our offense would be improved but our starting pitching would take a MASSIVE hit without Prior. That's not exactly looking at a right trade that would make this team better because in reality the overall team wouldn't be as good if the trade went down.

That sums it up perfectly.

I really don't think the cubs organization had anything to do with him being labelled injury prone at all. How can you possibly lay that blame on them? Dude seriously, is there anything that isn't Hendry's fault? Global Warming? Healthcare Costs? Hendry has every right to look into deals for any players to make the team better. He shouldn't need to coddle players, and as much as I love Prior (2nd favorite player on the Cubs) he shouldn't be in a tizzy because his name was perhaps mentioned to see what it could get. I think you should join ndistops bandwagon, because I doubt your attitude will ever change short of a WS championship. Dude seriously, A lot of things pertaining to the Cubs are indeed Hendry's fault. Keep sugarcoating it for yourself, I know better. I'm not asking for a WS chamiponship I'm asking for us to at least make the playoffs. If you think having a good year and not making the playoffs is possible that's on you.

The real question is when has Plaxico ever shown up for a big game? I can assure you the Panther's DBs look that much better because of the same reasons you mentioned about the Bears CBs. QB's avoiding Lucas? Come on man is his middle name Champ Bailey? I think you are overrating your CBs a bit.

Carolina has the 9th ranked passing defense(191.1) while Chicago has the 5th(179.5) Bears allowed only 61 points at home all season. Carolina has allowed 259 points for the season while the Bears have allowed 202. Carolina(91.6) has the 4th best rushing defense while Chicago (102.3)has the 11th.

Yeah, but they changed the rules after that year so that cornerbacks can't cheat, tackle, bite, mug, etc., WRs coming off the line of scrimmage. So Manning will not be that effective. And when did Gamble and Lucas become known as some of the best corners in this league? Gamble is on his 2nd year.

I think you guys are on to something. I wouldn't be surprised if the Cubs are talking up the injury and looking at it as worst case scenario. I can see it now somebody comes out with a sprained ankle and he might be done for the season according to the Cubs medical staff :)

In Week 11 Peterson had 4 carries for 37 yards and a 9.3 average. Jones's longest run that week was 20 yards and Petersens 19. I like the way the Bears mix the two backs. Jones gets out there and wears the defense out. Then get Petersen in there and throw some of that quickness at them. We have 3 backs with 3 styles so that is a plus.

I always wondered what Vegas(handicappers) take into account when they set the marks. Do they read stats have scouts at games? Just take wild guesses? I don't know I just always wondered.

I can't stand the talk about other teams spotting another 10 points either. This is football and turnovers are part of the game. How is this a different Carolina team? The only difference I see is Foster is their starter now instead of S.Davis which by the way Foster had more carries against us than Davis did anyways. They have the same OL, same DL. Maybe their OL got better because the first time around they could not stop our D-line and that is what won the game for us. I have a lot of respect for Carolina and I know this won't be easy and I know better than to think we have an easy win coming I can honestly say it could go either way but if their O-Line can't stop us I believe Carolina will lose. Bears have a lot of ? marks too. They are coming off a ridiculously long bye when you consider the starters also rested in week 17 too. Some of our starters havent played in like 6 weeks(Hillenmeyer, M. Brown). How will the team respond after such a long layoff? How will Grossman respond in the playoffs when considering he has only played 1.5 games all season? Man, I just can't wait until Sunday.

According to what I heard on the radio and what I have read in reports Hendry didn't even have to go as high as 13 mil to get Furcal. They were offering Furcal 9mil per year and 1-1.5 mil more per year would have had him.

You can't have it both ways. If you state the 100 million is a reason there should be no holes (Which I agree with), you cannot counter and say they are cheap. Look at how many different things they have done to Wrigley Field in order for them to get more money? Not saying that 100mil payroll is small by any means but they have the money to make it more and last year after the Sosa deal they could have added a little more to the payroll to get a better player than Burnitz.

The great Hendry at his best what can I tell ya.

Last year it went to Baltimore, because the fans were never going to take him back after he ran out on the team. I understand that. But that’s over now. Where does all that money go for next season? Apparently into the new bleacher seats, which will not help if winning a championship is on the to do list for the foreseeable future. Eyre, Howry, Jock, Prior raise, Z raise, and Pierre's salary. Like it or not that's where it went (and then some). Let's not forget the bloated contracts Neifi and Rusch got as well.

I won't get too much into it but this organization is abysmal and this offseason just like last years is a slap in the face to all Cubs fans. MacPhail, Hendry and Baker in my mind are the problem here. If these clowns don't get fired we will never be a top notch team. 100 million payroll and we still have so many holes. I have no confidence in this organization anymore. It's obvious they are all about the money.