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I'd rather have derosa at 4.3 than neifi at 2.5. Honestly. Well, DeRosa fits more of the Walker role and Izturis is the nu-Neifi. My point is we've barely improved the middle infield, if at all, at too much cost. Welcome to Hendry's world.
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Hendry has stated he was looking at the international market this year.
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...wow. That's an insane amount. Can't be upset at the Cubs for not bidding that.. Nope. Nothing we can do about this one.
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Not good at all.
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Well said -- I mostly agree except I don't think it's necessarily too much to pay if he's expected to be a starter. Prices are up this year. I'm not quite as bummed about this signing as I was the Izzy signing; we now have two back-of-the-lineup guys with DeRosa and Izzy (not to mention Cedeno) ... I was really hoping for Ray Durham at 2B and to bat leadoff :cry: I can't really blame you there, having Izturis on this team really bugs me. I'm hoping that Hendry works a miracle and gets him out of here.
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I wouldn't go that far but I will be disappointed if we don't sign Drew or at least one of the top tier FA available.
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Then deal with the losses the Cubs will produce yet again this year.. Yeah, the Cubs are going to lose because they signed Mark DeRosa to a three year deal. Right. This is exactly the same way we started last off season and that was a hoot now wasn't it?
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Then deal with the losses the Cubs will produce yet again this year..
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Yeah, but he was putting up 30 homers and close to 100rbis before that. He was no slouch. If he upped his numbers so much in one year and turned him into a superstar, why is is so hard to think that Derosa can't do the same after his breakout year and turn into a good everyday player? Let's hold off on the superstar talk for DLee as well. He's had one good year and still hasn't produced the same kind of numbers. Yes, I know he was injured but let's take a wait and see approach with him too. Is it possible DeRosa figured it out and will put comparable numbers just like last year? Sure it is, but IMO it is unlikely that he will. He was pretty bad towards the end of the year last year so maybe he had a really long hot streak. His career numbers are abysmal, so I have to say that the chances seem better that he will not be as good as he was last year. Obviously, I hope that I'm wrong but it's hard not to be worried giving 4mil to a player who will be the everyday 2B for this team who only put up one good year which happened to be his contract year.
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Yeah, but he was putting up 30 homers and close to 100rbis before that. He was no slouch.
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Now that the deal is done, the best we could hope for is to trade Izturis and move Theriot to SS. I can't stand having Izturis on this team. DeRosa will be the starting 2B for us.
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So much for the platoon theory. DeRosa was on the radio and one reason he chose the Cubs was because his role would be as a 2B.
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A safer bet would be Lugo, Durham, Giles not DeRosa. These would also be much more expensive options. Considering how many more players we need, we couldn't afford to spend 7-10 million on a 2b, or trade significant talent for Giles. As for Theriot, I don't like handing 27 year olds with a career slugging percentage in the minors of .337 starting jobs, not to mention the fact that DeRosa hit more homeruns in July and August of last year than Theriot has in his entire career spanning over 600 games. Theriot gets on base at a decent rate, but he shouldn't be a starter simply because he put up an OBP over .350 IN THE MINORS. Not a great signing, but better than Neifi. The difference between him and the other 2B options out there is prob 4mil per year. By trading izturis you would free up some cash and at the same time improve the offense. Signing DeRosa to a contract over 4mil for 3 years is super risky. There are risks involved letting Theriot play and the same hold true for DeRosa too. I'm really skeptical that he will be able to produce the same numbers as he did last year. I would rather see Hendry take an all or nothing approach. Sign the top tier FA's when possible and work your way down, not the other way around.
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A safer bet would be Lugo, Durham, Giles not DeRosa.
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YESSSS! We're going to the super bowl!!
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hasn't that been Hendry's MO for a while now?
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Now getting rid of Izturis would be an excellent move. I don't see Hendry doing that seeing how important it is for him to have players that can catch the ball though.
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I still don't understand why he is back this year. He should have left with the other clowns when the season ended
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If I was a betting man, I would say that DeRosa has been signed as our 2B instead of Jones' platoon partner.
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Then I'd live with missing out on him. He made $675k last year. He would have taken $2m, because I cannot imagine another team giving him more per. I think the Phillies would have easily paid him more than 2 per. They were looking at him to fill a starting spot and had already expressed great iinterest in him. Then good for the Phillies. Let them overpay for a utility IF. Let's be clear: We didn't overpay for JD Drew or Barry Zito or someone who's actually good. We overpaid for a player who's somewhere between Mark Grudzielanek and Neifi Perez. I would agree that the contract is over what I would have paid him-but really all the contracts together so far, we're still under what we were projecting budget-wise going into getting out impact SP and bats. Let's see if we actually get those-that will tell the tale or not if this is a good offseason, not this signing. Every little counts when you are trying to sign a top tier FA. Bloated contracts list: Izturis DeRosa Rusch Dempster
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No. Hendry hired a driver to take care of it and he chartered a private jet for DeRosa to take home. DeRosa just became a life-long Cubs fan after Hendry give him his bloated, set for life contract.
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Honestly, what has he done exactly to deserve the benefit of the doubt?
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Unless Lou asked Hendry to beef up the bench big time due to the day games and this might put a couple of young guys on the bench to save some dough.. Ding ding ding ding! I think you hit the nail on the head. But you still didn't have to run out and pay him 3x what he deserved. We way overpaid. If we paid him about $2m, I wouldn't care. If that extra $2m per is the difference between a crappy OF and JD Drew, I'm going to be bloody ticked. And I believe that is what's going to happen. Just like a couple years ago we signed Neifi, Rusch and Burnitz to terrible deals when we could have added most of that money together and possibly could have gotten a top tier FA like Drew, and possibly Beltran.
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To be honest, I don't see how signing a bunch of guys to cheap deals to fill out your minor league rosters is worse than paying a guy, who has been for the most part mediocre and is coming off of a career year at age 31, 13 million dollars. I meant the ordonez signing in the article...you want him back? I'll take a team of Derosa's starting over him...Yuck... But I agree with you 100% on this issue. I would rather have Theriot or somebody else instead of a Derosa making over 4mil per year. That money should be used to IMPROVE the team. I don't see how signing Derosa does that.
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Nobody is saying that, though. This is how you avoid disaster contracts like the Yankees are saddled with right now, and like we have been in the past. You don't sign a 30 year old guy (outside of a real superstar like an ARod or Pujols) coming off a career year to a big money long-term contract. so are you against signing Lee, Soriano and/or Drew? All will get multiple years and all are over 30 I only want Drew. He's significantly better offensively, and he doesn't have the weight/fitness issues like Lee that would bring on a more rapid decline. I'm with you, Drew should be our top priority. He would be a huge improvement to this offense.