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ANSWER: Angel Pagan!!! My sentiments exactly. But do you really think Dusty will go with 3 youngsters? Ken

Every loss is disappointing. I imagine we'll have quite a few victory parties as well. Hopefully, they will well outnumber the disappointments. Ken

In actuality, it didn't hurt the team since the Cubs didn't score in the 9th. Ken

Did Jones strikeout?

Yeah, and Hillary has said she's not interested in seeking the Presidency.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/cubs/cst-spt-sosa24.html Actually, the title of your thread is wrong. Grace never said Sammy used steroids. Ken

Just looking at pitch counts, it sounds like Wood would have been ahead of Prior even without Prior's shoulder injury. That's amazing. Go Woody. I don't mean to be negative, but seeing Wood and Prior the last two years, I can't get excited about either "coming back early" from an injury(particularly Wood because of his poor mechanics). Does anyone seriously think that Wood can give us 30-35 quality starts this year (or any year for that matter)? I just get tired of going into a season depending on Wood/Prior only to be let down. 2003 may just be the last time we will ever see Wood and Prior dominant in the same year. Ken

Apparently he needs more wins. Right. I guess those three straight years of at least 130 ERA+ don't matter, especially when the only starters to have accomplished this from 2003-05 were him and Santana. I'll stop attempting to hijack this thread now. If Zambrano pitched for the Yankees or Red Sox he would lead Sportscenter every time he pitched. He is a special talent. He and Lee are the 2 most important players for the Cubs. I'd say Z may be the most important. Kind of sad when the cards fan is the only one with any hope for this team. Saying Z isn't elite is ridiculous. He has had the three best consecutive years of any cubs starter since WWII Hmm....seems to me that Fergie Jenkins had a few good years in a row. :) Ken

Because this is the 2nd time I've been jumped on for not meeting the high standards of some of the "better" posters. There's no excuse for treating someone like that. Oh, but I guess since these are only words on a computer screen, that gives people a right to use sarcasm, and yes, belittle others. Where was the belittling? He corrected your error. Go back to his first response. "Good Grief" I don't mind being corrected. If I make a mistake, please correct, and I'm man enough to admit I was wrong. But "rolling" one's eyes by making a statment such as "good grief" is a phrase of belittlement. If you can't see that, then I'm wasting my time. I think you need to step back and look at the situation to see that you're going overboard because of two words that aren't extremely inflammatory. No, they are not extremely inflammatory. I never said they were. They are terms of belittlement. Am I being a little sensitive? Maybe. Or maybe it's just I get sick and tired of coming on these boards, trying to contribute, and get belittled by others who think they are better than others. Other people gossip and talk behind other's backs and gossip. But when someone like me calls someone out on their pompous behavior, I get labled too sensitive. But whether you agree with me or not, using the term "good grief" was like rolling ones eyes. I don't put up with that crap. I don't disrespect people that way, and I expect the same treatment in return. Ken

Because this is the 2nd time I've been jumped on for not meeting the high standards of some of the "better" posters. There's no excuse for treating someone like that. Oh, but I guess since these are only words on a computer screen, that gives people a right to use sarcasm, and yes, belittle others. Where was the belittling? He corrected your error. Go back to his first response. "Good Grief" I don't mind being corrected. If I make a mistake, please correct, and I'm man enough to admit I was wrong. But "rolling" one's eyes by making a statment such as "good grief" is a phrase of belittlement. If you can't see that, then I'm wasting my time.

Because this is the 2nd time I've been jumped on for not meeting the high standards of some of the "better" posters. There's no excuse for treating someone like that. Oh, but I guess since these are only words on a computer screen, that gives people a right to use sarcasm, and yes, belittle others.

thats from Suntimes : http://www.suntimes.com/output/cubs/cst-spt-kerry15.html Thank you for your apology. This is the 2nd time I've been jumped on. The first time was I made an informational post that was already made and someone jumped down my throat for that. this is supposed to be a helpful forum, not where you have to fear that you're gonna get attacked if you don't make a post like some of the veterans in here.

When you jump to conclusions and spew information that is not backed up with any facts/sources and start talking doom and gloom you tend to get that type of response. Here is another link with some additional quotes: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2153676 I made a frickin mistake. I don't deserve to be belittled. Just because you have a few posts under your belt, that gives you a right to come down on someone who perhaps was a little hasty with a post? I don't need this crap from you.

But he did have labrum sugery. Stop being so arrogant! Ken Not a good idea to call someone arrogant when you are wrong... No, but I'd like a little respect instead of being belittled!!

But he did have labrum sugery. Stop being so arrogant! Ken How is that arrogant? You insinuated Wood had a torn labrum and was therefore in the same group of people who had a 3% chance of being ... who was it again? Anyway, there is a difference here, and as far as I can tell, it's an important difference. So, when people write about the procedure Kerry had, they should take the responsibility of reporting it accurately. I didn't insinuate....I perhaps made a mistake. Apparently there is some confusion about the type of surgery Wood actually had. Perhaps I should have studied this out a bit more before I posted. But you don't have to slam somebody with "holier than thou" language. Comments such as "good grief" only show how immature some of you are. There's no call for that.

But he did have labrum sugery. Stop being so arrogant! Ken

So then Wood did have labrum surgery? Ken

Per Will Carroll: Kerry Wood continues to impress with his throwing and looks to be on track or even ahead of optimistic projections. Given the normally gloomy returns from labrum surgery, Dr. Kremchek’s repair on Wood is going to be closely watched to see if things progress differently. Did he or did he not have labrum surgery? Ken

I didn't realize how difficult it was to come back from labrum surgery (the type of surgery Wood had done), but here is an excerpt I just found: The San Francisco Giants' Robb Nen, one of the best relief pitchers in baseball, had off-season surgery in 2002 to "clean up loose particles" in his shoulder. What Nen didn't know is that he had a torn labrum, the fearsome modern baseball injury that strikes down pitchers quickly, stealthily, and painfully. Eighteen months and three surgeries later, Nen is still waiting to throw his next major-league pitch. The leading minds in baseball medicine are flummoxed by the labrum. Doctors can't agree on how to detect a tear, don't know the best way to fix one, and aren't sure why, almost without fail, a torn labrum will destroy a pitcher's career. Leading baseball surgeon Dr. James Andrews estimates that 85 percent of pitchers make a full recovery after an ulnar collateral ligament reconstruction, aka the once risky Tommy John surgery. (USA Today has even called the surgery the "pitcher's best friend.") But if pitchers with torn labrums were horses, they'd be destroyed. Of the 36 major-league hurlers diagnosed with labrum tears in the last five years, only midlevel reliever Rocky Biddle has returned to his previous level. Think about that when your favorite pitcher comes down with labrum trouble: He has a 3 percent chance of becoming Rocky Biddle. More likely, he'll turn into Mike Harkey, Robert Person, or Jim Parque, pitchers who lost stamina and velocity—and a major-league career—when their labrums began to fray. After reading this, I definitely have my doubts whether Wood will ever be a dominating pitcher again. Ken

Prayer won't work....God is not a Cub fan. Ken

That's great. I can't wait until August when he starts to pitch well 8) If you read what I responded to, I wasn't talking about Maddux's mechanics. It was in reference to Maddux's influence. That's why I was referring to his team attitude. Read the post in its entirety before you quote someone out of context! Ken Looked like he agreed, but was just pulling your leg there. Hence the smiley. thanks, I missed the smiley. Ken

That's great. I can't wait until August when he starts to pitch well 8) for what it's worth, I wasn't talking about Maddux's mechanics. It was in reference to Maddux's influence. That's why I was referring to his team attitude. :) Ken

heck, with mechanics...how 'bout his attitude. What a frickin' team player he is! Ken

I've got a ball signed by Dusty Baker, Ryne Sandberg, Derrick Lee, and Moises Alou. Ken

My guess is you won't see him until mid May. He'll be baby'ed for his first 3 or 4 starts. It won't be until sometime in mid June where he will be full strength -- IMHO. Ken