I suppose that depends on what you consider "outproduced". Giles has scored 12 more runs, driven in 6 more RBI, and has a .388 to .327 OBP advantage over Jones while playing in a much tougher park to hit. I don't see it as coincidental that Giles numbers dropped significantly when he moved from Pittsburgh to San Diego. See how his SLG dropped in 2003 from Pittsburgh to San Diego. See any other player on the Padres team and how their SLG's dropped when they moved to Petco. It's a simple question. Who would you rather have? Jones, Neifi and Rusch or Brian Giles? Well, runs scored and RBI's are obviously team stats and therefore irrevelant, but I will address the rest of your post. No one is going to say that Jones is better at getting on base than Giles is. But the fact is that Jacque has a much better OPS than Brian does. And as for your last question, I'd rather have Giles because he gives us something that we desperately need - an ability to get on base 2 out of 5 times a game. But you overlook that Jones and his 6 million dollar salary has been better than Giles and his 12 million (?) dollar salary this year, park factor or no park factor.