Nocioni is a hard nosed son of a gun. I really like his defensive game, and ability to step in and take a charge. Hes the type of player that will just piss the other team off, hes annoying lol. His shot has been off lately, and he hasnt been hitting the 3 at all. He has said he is a much better shooter than what hes showns so far so I hope thats true. I think he will be a very good signing in Pax's resume. The Bulls have Philly this week also so hopefully they come to play. I agree Raw, NJ should get better, especially with Vince coming to play everynight for the Nets, instead of half the time like he did the the Raptors. I lost alot of respect for Vince after seeing his interview with John Thompson on ESPN. Yeah, the couple games I have seen Nocioni hasn't hit anything from outside. Hasn't really done much of anything when I've seen him. I think he's hitting like 17% from 3 this season. I like this Bulls teams, but I hate the old guys. I can't stand AD, Griffin, or Piatkowski. Othella's ok. I like this team also. As far as the old guys go, AD is the only one who gets considerable PT. Like I mentioned earlier I think AD would be perfect coming off the bench, but SKiles wont mess with the starting lineup right now which is understandable. I actually like Davis in to start with Tyson bringing the energy off the bench. I would definitely start Gordon over Duhon though. Gordon has surprised me this year, but it would be nice if the Bulls got more size/defense at the 2G spot and came off the bench with Gordon at either G spot. Duhon's nothing special to me. wasn't duhon regarded as a shooter during his first 2 years at duke? Duhon came out of high school being a very good offensive player. He said though that when he got to Duke they never needed him to score so he always tried doing everything else. I think he can hit the open 3, but he cant take anybody off the dribble. The only reason he is starting right now is because Gordan turns the ball over too much, and doesnt play consistant D.