That's one of the more insulting things to be directed at me on this site in a long time. As someone who does lead people day in and day out, I'm aware of what leadership is, and it is something that's earned. It just doesn't happen because you attempt to assert leadership-type qualities. I explictly stated that "leaders just are." How you get that leadership can simply be asserted out of that is amazing. I still don't get exactly where our miscommunication is coming from. I believe that leadership is more innate than taught. It can be improved, but never instilled in someone that doesn't have it. You can learn how to be a manager, but not a leader. That's what I mean by "leaders just are." If you put a leader in a group of people, guess what they tend to do? Lead. I haven't met a leader yet who didn't quickly insert himself/herself into that role (where the "sooner rather than later" comes in). The trust and other factors that come with leading a group of individuals at peak performance (who may be leaders themselves) does come with time. Is that what you were saying? I definitely would agree with that. Leading is definitely a process, but guys who are true leaders tend to grab the reins rather quickly. Sorry for offending you earlier, US. agree, it then becomes what you do with that leadership role with the knowledge base you have and the ability to assimilate to new situation that will keep you in a successful leadership role. I see Girardi as a man that is on that precipous.