Papelbon - 1.61 ERA, 75 K/15 walks, .77 WHIP Dempster - 3.88 ERA, 48K/27 walks, 1.28 WHIP. But hey, at least his performance in situations arbitrarily defined by a meaningless statistic is only marginally worse than Papelbons! (Also, let's not mention the two tie games he entered and singlehandedly let get out of reach) Excellent points made comparing Dempster to a real closer. Saves are a meaningless statistic For the 2006 and 2007 seasons combined Dempster's ERA is close to 4.50. That's horrible for a so-called closer. Yes, those numbers aren't good at all for a so-called closer - but doesn't the fact that his percentage in achieving such a meaningless statistic despite those numbers show that maybe a 'closer' doesn't have to be lights out in order to get the job done? I'd take Dempster starting the 9th inning with a 1-run lead every time if the alternative were dropping him into the game in about 75% of the situations Marmol has been used in. The value of the role of closer is just as over-rated as most of the players who fill it.