But, I can't discount race because people aren't talking about Raffy and Mac because they're not black. You're completely right- the record plays a huge role. Maybe even 100%, I don't know. And maybe his jerk personality plays a role. But, I can't help but wonder about race in this situation when the darkest dude catches the most heat. In the NFL, black players are getting a pass when they get busted (Harrison, Merriman), so maybe that should set me at ease and let me know for sure it's the record or his personality or baseball's poetic higher standard even though the game's had cheaters since it started. I can only speak for myself, of course. I do not doubt that some peoples hatred is rooted in his race. Just like there is a very small percentage of Chicago Cubs fans whose hatred of Dusty Baker was rooted in his race. Probably you could even say that about Jacque Jones. But I would hope that the percentage of baseball fans who dislike Barry Bonds for reasons other than his race would be in the mid to high 90's. At least I hope so. I don't need to lose anymore faith in the human race. For me it's the record, that's it. He didn't take this heat when he broke the single season homerun record. And we certainly didn't need to see the smoking gun to know it was there. Why? Because nobody really cared about Mark McGwire. Same reason that we didn't care when McGwire broke the record the first time. Nobody really cared about Roger Maris. I guarantee you if that record had of belonged to an Aaron, or a Ruth, or a Mantle (someone iconic) McGwire would have gotten a lot more scrutiny when he broke the record. But otherwise it's just a fun fact. What really matters and what people really care about is the long haul. Sure, Neifi Perez probably holds the "greenies popped in 15 seconds" record, but what we care about is longevity! :D To be serious though, I know growing up as a baseball fan I was told of Maris but I was indoctrinated with Aaron. My father spoke of that record like it was written on a stone tablet and handed to Moses. So I think the reason Bonds gets so much hate is that there are so many reasons to hate him. He broke the untouchable record. Artificially. It wasn't supposed to be broken. People have lived their lives since Aaron took it just assuming they'd die with Aaron still the home run king. So obviously it doesn't help that he's a jerk, an apparent tax cheat, a bad husband, and so on and so on.