Cuzi
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Didn't Stroman have some of the lowest run support in the league when he was in Cy Young form this year? How many of his wins in the first 3 months of the season were because he was giving up 0-2 runs a start? How many of those games could have easily turned into a L because the pitcher was giving up 4 runs instead? Acting like the Cubs just need to find a .500 win rate pitcher to replace Stroman is disingenuous.
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Did I miss the part where someone said the Cubs should trade Morel for a rental reliever or something?
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If the Cubs looked at his time spent playing 3B in the minors and thought that he wasn't a butcher at the position, they would have stuck him there last year instead of going with Madrigal, a guy that had never played the position in his professional career and doesn't have the bat or the throwing arm to profile for the position. DH is a position. It is also the least valuable position in the lineup, hence why a team like the Mariners would value him more to play 2B.
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Morel has only payed 180.2 innings at 3B in his MLB career. In those 180.2 innings he has racked up -4 DRS and -3 OAA. That is not mostly adequate. That is pathetically bad. The only position he has been mildly successful at is 2B. 2B is a position that is entirely locked up for 3 years. He is also not a more productive hitter than Seiya Suzuki or Ian Happ. He is easily expendable because if he is so sought after by other teams, he has more value to the Cubs in trade than on the roster because he's just a DH on this roster, where a team like the Mariners could look at him as a 2B.
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So, Mervis is going to go be a .270 hitter launching 35 bombs a year.
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Nah. Just go get Gunnar Henderson. The Orioles seem prime to trade him with Mayo coming up soon...
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This argument doesn't hold water. If you are committed to $450M then another $50M isn't going to stop you. Now you've committed to $500M and the other team upped their offer by $20M. But you've committed to $500M so another $20M isn't going to stop you. Wrong. There's a cut off for everyone and acting like $50M is no big deal is moronic. It's like saying you've never walked past an item you've purchased before at the store because this time it's gone up 50 cents. It's just 50 cents right? So why didn't you buy it? Or you've sat there and waited for Black Friday to come along and get that item in your cart that's $200 for $175. It's just $25. Why wasn't it worth it to you a month earlier at $200?
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If the Cubs traded Hoerner in a deal for Bichette, then Bichette would man second and he wouldn't be happy about it. I'm fairly certain he has publicly said he does not want to leave the SS position, and why would he? It's the most valuable position on the diamond behind the pitcher. Who wants to give that up 2 years before your big pay day?
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Lets be real. Ohtani has been on a team with Mike Trout and he's still the spotlight.
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No horsefeathers they aren't the same. Ohtani is a unicorn. So trying to say we know what exactly it's going to take to sign him just shows how completely full of horsefeathers one is. If you think teams don't have a number in mind where they simply back out you are insane, even for Ohtani.
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I fail to see the similarities in your options. We have absolutely no clue what figure its going to take to land Ohtani. How many pundits projected Xander Bogaerts was going to sign for 11/280? Do you honestly believe there were similar offers to that from multiple teams?
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We do? So it's a "buy it now" price and not a "bid?" Interesting. What's the sticker price then?
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It's also more likely the Dodgers just simply offer him more money. The Dodgers have FU money and if they want they can outbid the Cubs if they choose.
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He's still plenty appealing to me. I would have no problem giving up a player in our top 10 for him. The guy is still like 90 percentile in literally every batted ball statistic and he's elite in K% takes above average walks. There's a lot to like about his potential still. The problem is, I wouldn't give up much more than just 1 player in our top 10 for him and that's unlikely to get much traction from the Blue Jays because of everything I just said about his potential.
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Are you just naming guys, or actually putting together a 5 player package for Vlad Jr? Even the best guys in the game dont command that many players on their own because there's a break point where it becomes not worth it. Not even Juan Soto brought back 5 players on his own. The Nationals gave up Soto and Bell to get 5 prospects and a salary dump MLBer. There's no shot the Blue Jays are getting 5 prospects for 2 years of Vlad Jr who was a 1 WAR player last year. He's worth far less than Bichette, not only because of positional worth and actual performance on the field, but because Vlad Jr is going to go through the arb process and is going to cost more than Bo Bichette over those 2 years. Vlad Jr is probably pretty close to worthless right now. So the idea of him getting traded is probably a stretch, because it's worth far more to the Blue Jays to hope he turns it around.
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In what world? You'd be lucky to only have PCA and Horton left.
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None of these proposed Bichette trades have enough "hurt" in them. We are talking about a 4-5 WAR player at 25 years old with 2 years on control that plays SS. The Blue Jays need pitching and OF. I have serious doubts of them being interested in Morel. His one hope is 2B and the Blue Jays already have a Morel at 2B that put up 2 WAR in 35 games.
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So, after all this "do you even understand positional value?" circus, you have circled back to my very initial response in that just because Morel is playing defense doesn't make him a 3 WAR player? What a waste of time.
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3B is the same positional adjustment in WAR calculations as 2B. What are you talking about?
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Morel can't play it at all? I'm positive Morel could play a bad 3B. If your argument is that positional value alone is going to increase his worth then the Cubs would have him playing 3B, but they dont. They actively choose to avoid giving him the opportunity to play 3B because he's more valuable by playing as little defense as possible.
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Do you know how bad defense hurts an accumulative stat? Take a gander at Jordan Walker if you dont.
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You must be under the assumption that Morel would automatically increase his WAR by playing defense, as if he is a positive defender... based on what? Morel isn't half the player Bichette is. Morel just has more power. Stop thinking a team that's trying to contend with Bichette being their best player, is going to trade that player to get worse for a prospect.
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The Blue Jays probably aren't looking to get rid of any of their MLB players. But a few of them do only have 2 years remaining, like Bichette. So they are getting close to the crossroads of having to choose a direction on their future. I would have to imagine that future would include Bichette, but not someone like Vlad. A team would likely have to overpay to get anything off their MLB roster. I wouldnt be willing to overpay for a SS, but I would be willing to overpay for Vlad. He's trending down, but he plays a position we have an opening for and his batted ball profile is the same exact reason I defended Suzuki on PSD while 95% of the board was constantly saying he was a terrible hitter and another Fukudome. I would be willing to take the risk of overpaying to get Vlad because he is just 1B/DH and the package probably doesnt sting near as bad as it would for Bichette.
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I wish I knew why people think a team is going to trade their best player, at the most premium position on the diamond, with 2 years of control for a utility player that potentially can't play a defensive position, a long reliever, and an unknown prospect. You aren't getting Bichette for scraps.
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I could see him being enough for Cabrera or Puk, but not both. Cabrera is young but he's yet to throw 100 innings in a season. He's only ever done it one time in his pro career and that was in 2018 in A ball. He's probably their 4/5 pitcher so you can replace that pretty easily if you really like Amaya, but why would the Cubs do it? They have a plethora of those guys to choose from and then they are left trying to figure out how to do exactly what the Marlins would be accomplishing.
