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Going somewhere, Soto? Yes, to the Yankees
Rcal10 replied to Bobson Dugnutt's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
When talking Alonso versus Soto in trade and then for an extension, to me the issue comes in how long Alonso will want. If he will sign a 5 year or at most 6yr deal extending him is fine. If he wants 8-10 years I am not interested. Where with Soto you can go 12 years and know, barring injury, at least the next 8, and probably 10, should be very good. Alonso does make some sense, especially if you don’t have to deal Morel or any of the top 10 prospects for him and even more so if the Cubs really feel Morel can handle 3rd. But I don’t want him in his late 30’’s. This is also based on Alonso costing far less in salary and acquisition costs than Soto. -
Going somewhere, Soto? Yes, to the Yankees
Rcal10 replied to Bobson Dugnutt's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
If the Cubs FO is committed to keep Soto here long term I have no issues with Morel + for Soto. But the + has to be lowered end prospects, not top 10 guys. Not because I feel all of them will be good, but because if they went in on Soto and are serious about winning they will need those other guys to get more talent. If this is “the move” and for one year, there is no reason to make this deal. They have to add. I also do feel if the Cubs FO feels Morel can play 3rd that might change the dynamics of a possible deal. This is a totally different discussion about Morel depending on if he is a 3rd baseman or DH. -
This would work for me.
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Going somewhere, Soto? Yes, to the Yankees
Rcal10 replied to Bobson Dugnutt's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I seriously doubt the Padres extend Soto. IMO he will be traded. And I see both sides of the argument of if Morel should go for Soto. While I agree with Cuzi that I wouldn’t want to trade 5 years of control for 1 year if Soto I do respect other people’s opinions. The problem with this discussion is people tend to try to prove how smart they are and cut down the other POV. That is what I really dislike about this discussion. For me it comes down to what the Cubs plan is for Morel. If they work him all off season at 3rd base and they feel he can handle it, I would much rather trade a prospect(s) for Soto. And not a top 4 or 5 either. Or don’t even trade for Soto. Look for another trade option moving some prospects. However, if the Cubs do not feel Morel can play 3rd base, maybe they do move him for Soto or another major league talent. To me 5 years of Morel is more valuable than 1 year if Soto on this team for Soto’s money. But I do respect those whose POV differ from mine. -
Going somewhere, Soto? Yes, to the Yankees
Rcal10 replied to Bobson Dugnutt's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Well said. While I lean towards not trading 5 years of Morel for 1 year of Soto(like Cuzi) If it came with other moves using some of that minor league capital I might like it better. However. As you also mentioned, if the FO believes Morel can handle 3rd base he becomes even more valuable. If that does happen I would rather keep Morel for those years and use minor league talent to acquire a top bat. Or sign Bellinger to play center and trade PCA for a young controlled pitcher. Sign someone like Garver or even Candelario again to play first and DH. I really think Morel is the key to the off season. If he can handle 3rd that is one spot filled. If they don’t feel he can they probably should move him. -
Going somewhere, Soto? Yes, to the Yankees
Rcal10 replied to Bobson Dugnutt's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Mead and Glasnow is much more realistic. However at Glasnow’s salary and his injury history I am not sure how decent an addition to Morel I would want to give up. Maybe the second piece is in the 10-15 range of Cubs prospects? -
Going somewhere, Soto? Yes, to the Yankees
Rcal10 replied to Bobson Dugnutt's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I know. It was extreme wishful thinking. And then I looked at his contract and excess value and realized there is no scenario he is a possibility. And when you add his NTC and him specifically signing with Cleveland it add up not even worth discussing. -
Going somewhere, Soto? Yes, to the Yankees
Rcal10 replied to Bobson Dugnutt's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Ramirez???? Wonder if there is anything to the mention of the Guardians considering trading Ramirez? -
Going somewhere, Soto? Yes, to the Yankees
Rcal10 replied to Bobson Dugnutt's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I still wouldn’t want to give up additional years of Morel unless the Cubs have an extension for Soto worked out or the FO knows they have to give him the best offer as a FA., and sign him. I don’t want 1 year if Soto for 5 of Morel. The team isn’t that close to winning it all. And as we saw this year, no team really is that close to go all in for 1 year. -
Going somewhere, Soto? Yes, to the Yankees
Rcal10 replied to Bobson Dugnutt's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I think it comes down to a decision by the. Cubs as to if Morel can play 3rd base. We don’t know if during the off season he proves he can play 3rd. If he can, I would rather go the prospect route. If he can’t they can use him. But either way, they need to sign Soto if they give up a solid package for him. -
You are probably right, but it is the Guardians however. And they have Manzardo waiting to bring up and play 1st. So if they can replace him with cheaper and also get good cheap talent back in the way of a prospect they might make a deal. They are always looking to cut costs. Every little bit helps.
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Going somewhere, Soto? Yes, to the Yankees
Rcal10 replied to Bobson Dugnutt's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
100% agree. If we don’t extend Soto there is no reason to make this deal. And we will regret it for years as Morel continues to play well for low cost. -
Touch to say with Naylor. Was last year a career year or at 26 is he finally becoming the player he will be for a number of years? It it is the latter. I wouldn’t mind him for several years at 1st. I do like Garver also. Why not both? One at 1st and the other DH. Sign Bellinger and deal PCA for Naylor and Bierber or the best young controlled pitcher Cleveland has. As for PCA to the Guardians, I am not an expert on trades. So I don’t know what is needed to be added either way if the Cubs ended up with Naylor and Bieber(or one of the other young controlled pitchers the Guardians have). A 24’ line up with Bellinger, Naylor, Garver and Morel(at third) added to the core they have already would be a very solid line up. Beiber or one of the young controlled pitchers added to the rotation would make for a solid rotation. And I would think that could be done within the LT threshold. Or at least only breaking the first level if they also added some pen help. of course, all if the above said, if they really could get Soto AND extend him, that would be first option for me. I just don’t expect that.
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If Naylor is an option I would hope the Cubs also add a pitcher from the guardians. One stop shopping. I would have wanted McKenzie, but I am not sure he is healthy. But they have other options. If they did go with Naylor then Mervis might as well be in the deal. Depending on if they got a pitcher too and what pitcher that was, obviously more would need to be added. But to me, they are a good team to get a pitcher from. Hawkins should know the young arms there. Bieber is also an obvious trade candidate, but his velo is down a little. So not sure I want to pay what is needed for him. I really think trades will be the way of acquiring more talent this year than FA signings. And I feel the Guardians are a good trade option.
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That sort of scenario doesn’t usually end well for the Cubs.
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If this is his last year and he can be a free agent the return might not be that great, however. But I do understand your point in if they can’t extend him they might deal him. I honestly think Soto will be available. And that will be the big move the Padres make.
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What does Kim make though? $7M? I would think they want to cut more than that. He would be fine if the Cubs for him. But IMO he isn’t a problem on the padres team. Trading him isn’t saving enough payroll.
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Why are they screwed already if Mervis and Hoskins are 1b/DH? If Mervis sucks then obviously he isn’t going to DH. Hoskins will play 1B and the Cubs will just rotate DH. Bottom line is the Cubs are not going to fill all spots with proven talent. They are not going to spend that kind of money. They need some young talent to come up. If not Mervis maybe Canario comes I and is DH. Maybe they trade for a 3rd baseman and Morel is the DH. Or, maybe Mervis does well the second time around. We don’t have to look far to find a guy who didn’t establish himself until he was mid to late 20’s in the majors. Garcia isn’t doing too bad for an older guy breaking into the league. Why can’t Mervis?
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Agreed. Not really interested in Dalbec. Just stick with Mervis. Maybe for a little cheaper than the star level contracts look into Hoskins. Him and Mervis can split DH/1B. I would rather see Ohtani or a Soto trade, but I know that is doubtful. I would rather sign Hoskins than trade for Alonso. Note: this is assuming Hoskins is healthy.
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Sadly we l know one of Dusty’s game 7 loses all too well.
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Didn’t fact check this, but I heard it reported that Bochy never lost a game 7 and Dusty never won one.
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Where I am struggling with what you are saying is when you say “a mid 30’s player jumps way up in performance”. He didn’t jump up in performance. He has always been very good. He has been the same pitcher every year. His era the precious 3 years was actually better than last year. He is no more likely to regress than any pitcher is, IMO. I do agree they had good health all year. I also agree that after next year they will probably have to replace him too, good or bad. But if I was a gambling man I would bet Wheeler will be a NL top 10 starting pitcher again next year, barring an injury.
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I would love it if Wheeler was on the Cubs next year. I would take my chances on him being a top 10 starter in the NL, again. And I am sure the Phillies are not worried about him slipping.
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Why wouldn’t you expect Wheeler to repeat his 23’ season? He has actually been better than that the years before 23’. I think he is only signed they next year. That might be the problem. But as for him being good, I don’t see why he won’t be.
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Not going to get an argument out of me. I agree 100%. But I also have followed this team a long time. And I have seen how the FO and ownership work. My concern will be the FO suggesting they like their young guys to fill whatever spots they need.
