My best guess? 2016 or 2017, depending on how lucky we get with pitching injuries. Yeah, I won't argue that. Although I could see playoffs next year with a few things going right. But I think we'll have a long run of success, but so will the Cards and Pirates. My prediction is 8 playoff appearances out of 10, starting in 2016. even if you think everything is setting up perfectly for a run starting in 2016, predicting success in 2025 is just straight nonsense. i understand the desire to do so, given how many years we are punting, but it's not even close to reasonable.