he hasn't deserved to be embrace yet, though. his game hasn't been good. but as far as doing the other things, he's been golden. I bet if his name was Chris Kramer you would love him, very similar games between the two yet everyone always shits all over Chester. It's not his fault he was put in the situation he was last year, that goes on Bruce and his poor recruiting. umm no Let's see Frazier averaged .8 steals a game last year in 33 minutes while Kramer averaged 2.3 in 29 minutes. Frazier might be a good defender but Kramer is ridiculously good. He not only makes people shoot bad but he gets a lot of steals. Then offensively Frazier is a liability while Kramer is someone who just doesn't shoot much (probably because he works the defense so much). Frazier has never even shot 36% in a season while Kramer's lowest is .430 his freshman year. In other words Kramer can score when needed and when left open Frazier just simply can't. So to sum up Kramer is a better shooter, defender and a much better player all around. He is also the clear team leader. Kramer is just a better athlete. I really like Kramer's game a lot. i'm going to have to come to chet's defense, here. kramer gets more steals and shoots a better percentage. however, chet is a better ball handler, distributer, and rebounder. as far as team leader, i believe that they were saying today on btn that the players call chet "coach frazier" (maybe they call kramer "mr. athletic director" at purdue, i wouldn't know). like i said, they're both role players and it's comical to say that either is "ridiculously good". haha.......hahahahaha. Read the post and don't take it out of context. Kramer is ridiculously good at defense and that is what I said. I never wrote he was ridiculously good overall. Oh and yes Frazier has more assists but his assist to turnover ratio his worse than Kramer's in their career's. The reason Kramer doesn't get a lot of assists is because everyone on Purdue can handle the ball (except the center's) so they don't have a true point guard because they don't need one. so kramer gets a pass on his lack of assist numbers but frazier doesn't get one on his shooting despite the fact that he was having to take a lot of shots playing on a team full of bad players? frazier didn't have the luxury of filling a role on last year's team. let's not make excuses for either because there are enough to go around on both sides. neither offenses require a true point guard because they're 3-guard offenses--they are the exact same motion system. like i said, both players are role players. kramer's a better shooter and gets more steals, frazier is a better ball-handler, distributer, and rebounder. i'm fine with frazier on this year's team because it's actually a good team.