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I think you have to use the DFA method and expose him to waivers in order to get him to the minors. Eyre will be traded, probably for a PTBNL in the next 10 days. If not, somebody will claim him in the waiver process. Zero chance anyone claims Scott Eyre off waivers. 100% chance someone does.

I think you have to use the DFA method and expose him to waivers in order to get him to the minors. Eyre will be traded, probably for a PTBNL in the next 10 days. If not, somebody will claim him in the waiver process. Zero chance anyone claims Scott Eyre off waivers. Why? A left-handed pitcher with 2 months left on his deal, and has possibilities of helping a ballclub. There are several bullpen starved teams who would make a claim. There's very little risk in that move for them. Cause he sucks? Not too many teams are going to be looking for a relief pitcher sporting a 1.68 WHIP this year and a 1.80 WHIP last year. Eyre should have been dumped a long time ago. The only reason he was still around was because he was a LHP. Eyre sucked the first half of last year because they wouldn't let him take his ADD meds. When they let him start taking them again, he was solid in the second half. His numbers suck this year due to a couple of bad outings where he was hurt combined with a small sample size. Eyre >>>> Howry right now. They're shipping the wrong pitcher out.

Indeed. BBTN puts Brock above ROGERS FREAKING HORNSBY????? I don't know about y'all, but where I come from, .358/.434/.577, 175 OPS+ >>>>>>>> .293/.343/.410, 109 OPS+ Yeah, but Brock played leadoff!

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Assuming health all around, I'd take our '04 rotation over this one. But Harden makes it real, real close. Prior-Wood-Z in 04 is comparable to Z-Harden-Demp this year. Clement-Maddux in 04 is considerably better than Lilly-Marquis this year.

It would have to be one hell of a haul for Lee. Either an ace or some uber-prospects.

What about the Glenallen Hill, Jose Hernandez, Sammy Sosa outfield that the Cubs used for a time in 1998? :shock: Sammy was a pretty damned good right fielder back in those days. Hernandez was mediocre. The WSox outfield is a bit worse than our 98 outfield.

That makes some sense. I'd still like to know how it wandered into baseball terminology, and if Brenly is the only person who uses it that way. he could use it to refer a starting pitcher who's throwing harder in the ninth inning, seemingly getting stronger. or a starter who is gassed but knows he is facing his last hitter. I would assume it could also refer to a team getting hot at the end of the year while getting close to clinching a playoff berth.

As a starter? I'm assuming when all is said and done with his rehab, they see him back in the pen...

You may be giving Ned too much credit. How do you know the pitcher didn't do that on his own?

That's awesome that the Cards are paying for a player who has actually helped a good bit to bury them behind in the division.

can you explain that position a bit? Someone could probably do it better than me, but it has to do with fewer sharp cuts with the routes they take. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Griffey hasn't had alot of joint problems, but rather a lot of hamstring problems. I would think that sharper cuts are harder on the joints, and all-out sprinting in the outfield is harder on the hamstrings. So if you think CF is easier from that point of view, it's still the worst place for Griffey to be playing.

I can't wait for WSox fans to start proclaiming that we are all just jealous of them for getting Griffey.

Considering most WSox fans revel more in the Cubs woes than they do their own teams successes, I think they just want to see Griffy in a Sox uni when he hits the homerun that puts him past Sammy all-time.

Those numbers are absolutely atrocious given that you've removed his worst 5 outings. If you take all of the other relievers in the league that have 30+ outings this year, and you remove their 5 worst appearances, those numbers would probably rank in the bottom 20% of the league. Many mediocre relievers would have an ERA in the low 2s if you removed their 5 worst appearances. If you removed Wuertz's 5 worst outings this year, his line is: 35.2IP, 4 ER, 1.01 ERA, 1.07 WHIP, 23/12 K/BB, far superior to Howry's, other than he's walking a few more people. Even if you only removed two of his outings instead of five, his numbers are: 36.2 IP, 8 ER, 1.99 ERA, 24/14 K/BB. We already applied that to Wuertz when we ignored the fact that he can't get out AAA hitters since his demotion. That was the point. I addressed that. Ignoring Wuertz, even when you remove Howry's 5 worst appearances, he's still not doing very good. Also on the perspective piece, we're still trying to figure out what is wrong with Wuertz. We know what is wrong with Howry. 90mph straight fastball over the plate with nothing else in his arsenal. If that's all that Howry is bringing to the table nowadays, then there's only two real conclusions you can come to: 1) There's something wrong with him which is preventing him from throwing harder or throwing anything else, and he should be shut down, or 2) age is catching up to him and that is all that he has to offer, which means he should be done in this league.

I wonder if he has ADD but it's undiagnosed? Scott Eyre had similar problems, until he got medication for it in 2002, and he turned his career around. I wonder if this has been looked into. If not, I'd love to see what Hill could do if that is the problem and they get it taken care of.

You know who else had a proven track record of "not being terrible"? Bob Howry. Exept for 2008 of course. Furthurmore, Weurtz wasn't even terrible when he was demoted, our manager just has ADD. Howry minus 5 outings this year: 47.1 IP, 3.58 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, 35/7 K/BB Those numbers are absolutely atrocious given that you've removed his worst 5 outings. If you take all of the other relievers in the league that have 30+ outings this year, and you remove their 5 worst appearances, those numbers would probably rank in the bottom 20% of the league. Many mediocre relievers would have an ERA in the low 2s if you removed their 5 worst appearances. If you removed Wuertz's 5 worst outings this year, his line is: 35.2IP, 4 ER, 1.01 ERA, 1.07 WHIP, 23/12 K/BB, far superior to Howry's, other than he's walking a few more people. Even if you only removed two of his outings instead of five, his numbers are: 36.2 IP, 8 ER, 1.99 ERA, 24/14 K/BB. Let's apply a little perspective to this argument...Both Howry and Wuertz have been solid to outstanding relievers from 2005-2007. Wuertz is going on 30, Howry is 6 years older. It is more likely that Wuertz's problems this year are an anomoly rather than a decline due to age. Howry, however, is the opposite case. There's more room for optimism that Wuertz can regroup and perform well the rest of the year than there is for Howry. Wuertz despite his "struggles" is performing almost perfectly in line with his career numbers. That said, I'd like to see consecutive good outings from him at Iowa to ensure there's nothing wrong with him, mentally or otherwise, before bringing him back up. If he can do that, I'd be shopping Howry or DFAing him at that point.

So you have to be a fan of a team to see that your two pitchers, one of whom has quite a history on the DL, are leading the league in pitcher abuse points? That's seems like a pretty asinine suggestion to me. I'll give you that Sabathia wasn't necessarily racking up astronomical pitch counts that he couldn't handle, but you've got to be concerned that Sheets has gotten ridden hard, Brewers fan or not.

Watching these last two games against the Brewers, I can't help but get the feeling we were playing our own 2004 Cubbies. The Brewers have a couple of stud arms to ride and a very potent offense. However, that team is fundamentally unsound. Poor defense and bad decision making seem to plague this team on the field. My biggest complaint during the Dusty era was that we never seemed to have a fundamentally sound baseball team under him. It was just assumed that big leaguers would have the basics down. We underachieved because of it. Yost's Brewers draw alot of parallels right now. Anyone else see the parallels? Milwaukee would be justified in removing him, even though they've got about the best record that franchise has had at this point in a very long time.

They were the luckiest team in baseball, now maybe their talent level is more in line with their current record.

I'm glad he's going back to the AL. I think this was a pretty good deal for both teams.

There's a shortage of quality shortstops across the league, it's a position most teams where many teams would like to upgrade. There will be high demand for Cedeno in the offseason, as he may be amongst the best availble SSs this winter. Like him or not (personally, I don't know how anyone could perceive his value to be near that of a water cooler), he's a pretty good trading chip right now.

No kidding... A scheduled Rich Hill start is akin to one of the signs of the apocalypse. Send him to a drought-stricken region in Africa to provide relief.. Or better yet, Georgia...

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Yeah, it's a little strange that he made the Cubs use an Astro's coach to coach first for the Cubs while Quade serves his suspension. :?: