While the PC's are bad enough, even more frustrating to me was that Dusty left him in there to achieve some of those super high pitch counts in games that were well in hand. I want to say a couple of those 130+ games were games Dusty was trying to let Prior get a complete game shut out, or finish off an inning he got himself in trouble with. ETA: Perfect example was the 131 PC start against St. Louis with a 7-0 lead after 6 innings. Dusty leaves him in there for 8 innings. Next start, 5-1 lead after 5, Dusty takes him out after 7 with 129 pitches thrown. Dumbass! That's why it's not apples to apples and innings aren't all created equal. If they limit him on pitches, the innings number could be pushed. Also, it has to kill any pro athlete to basically sit down and watch his team try and win a title in what could be their only chance. I'm pretty damn sure numerous teams thought they were "going to be competitive for a long time" and "had a ton of young talent" and then ended up never making it back. There's no guarantee that if the Cubs shut down Prior in September of 2003 that he would have come back and dominated again in 04 or 05. They could have, however, certainly treated him a lot more cautiously. But, if he had gotten 5 more outs vs. Florida and they could have won the WS after that, I'm sorry, but I'd sacrifice his arm for that. I want to talk about the two things that are in bold. The first one about the pitch count. Granted that Baker ran Prior into the ground with that and several of those starts Baker left him in too long. There were other factors as well. Here's the difference between Prior and Strasburg. Strasburg has like 40 starts in his career so far and only 2 of those starts were more than 110 pitches and 7 more from 100-109 pitches (all 9 starts are from this year). Nats are already limiting Strasburg in BOTH pitch counts and innings so far in his career. It's a great way to go with a guy like Strasburg IMO. They want to make sure they have him for multiple seasons. Could he get hurt again? Of course, but the reason will be because of something Strasburg did (or his mechanics) or a fluke thing happened (collison with someone/liner to head or elbow/etc.) and not because Nats were reckless with him. The 2nd part... Why would Cubs need to shut down Prior in Sept. of '03??? I'm not sure where you're going with that. Prior pitched like 170 innings in 2002 (minors and MLB) and went 210 (plus 23 in playoffs) in 2003. He also didn't have any injuries before 2003 and was regarded to have great mechanics at the time IIRC. Yes, they should've been more cautious with him, but the problem was having Baylor (check out his 2002 game logs) and Baker as his managers. I don't think it was how many innings he pitched in 2003. It was the pitch counts in a lot of the games in his career and leaving him in too long when they could've went to the bullpen. Had they been more cautious about that part, they probably would've cut 10-20 innings easily in the 2003 season and also a buttload of pitches that he didn't even need to throw. Now do I think it would've saved his career? No, but I think it would've extended by another year or possibly two before the injuries. He was bound to have shoulder/arm injuries eventually with his mechanics. I'm not sure about the whole "if he had gotten 5 more outs vs. Florida and they could have won the WS after that, I'm sorry, but I'd sacrifice his arm for that" deal when he really shouldn't been out there in the 8th in the first place. Why would you want him to pitch a complete game anyway? Of course you would sacrifice his arm to be in the WS and have a chance to win. You already know what happened afterwards and how messed up his career is to this point. Plus it has no effect on your life (besides being a fan of the Cubs and the emotions of getting into the WS). It's stupid and pointless as pretty much everyone else would say the same thing now (except for probably Prior and his family).