Splendid Splinter

Looks like he lost his balance just enough as he was throwing it.

First one of the year for him

You guys are forgetting one big number. 21 pts. In the 4th. Def did nothing.

Apparently you never been to or live in Indiana. Alabama has the sisters. We got the 2nd/3rd cousins.

While I agree Caleb is most important here, but I also would add Rome/Wright to that and probably Dexter as well.

Only way I see if the deal is done now is Falcons is giving up 2nd/3rd this year or the 2nd this year and a conditional 2nd/3rd next year that would move up 1 round if Falcons make the playoffs. Like Poles knows he can’t get a better deal. Or maybe it’s a Fields + 9th for 8th + ??? type deal?

Sweat contract is going to look good here once Burns, Parsons, Garrett, etc. get their deals in the offseason. He’ll end up more at 8-10 range instead of top 5 for AAV which is where he should be.

True, but I can see Jaylon asking for 18-20 mil/yr which is top 5 money for CB. Some of the #s back him up that he's on that level. Poles probably sees him at 14-15??? Which it’s top 10 $$$ and due to his health/lack of turnovers. Just totally guessing, but it’s a big enough gap.

I think Poles letting Jaylon see if he can get a better offer on an extension from another team so he can either match it or trade him if the # ends up too much. I don’t think Jaylon is going to get what he wants in the end and remains a Bears.

A buddy of mine threw out AJ Green as a comp for MHJ. I’ll take that as well.

Pretty sure if you look up league avg (offensively) from this year and compare it to the 70s, the triple slash is similar (within .010-.050 for OPS depending on which year you’re comparing to). 2023 avg more doubles/HR/K so higher SLG where 70s had more singles for slightly higher AVG. Pretty sure someone can back me up on that and go into more detail, but thawv and B2B aren’t exactly remembering correctly about the 70s overall.

Jimmy Butler is just channeling his inner Dennis Rodman

17+32+80 for 9+53 works if you wanted your 2nd pick back with the Steelers.

Has the org *actually* said this in any meaningful way (or at least the way it's implied: that he was the end of shopping at WR) or did they just acquire a bonafide NFL player at a position they were less talented at than pretty much any team in the league last year? What's the obligation here? The only one of these guys who didn't poop their pants with an open lane to lots of touches on the 2022 Bears was Kmet. This in a league in which the average franchise threw 560+ times (meaning Fields isn't going to limited to 318 passes unless the offense continues to be him and one other guy)! Redundancy at WR...not enough balls to go around for all the pass catchers....these are not things the 2023 Bears have to worry about! Also a reminder that Mooney, the 2022 roster's only competently performing NFL WR, finished last season with an ankle surgery Best case for Fields is something like Hurts. He ended up with 460 pass attempts so we’re talking ~140 more. You’re probably gonna see something like 130 targets Moore/ 100 Mooney/ 90 Claypool/ 70 Kmet. That’s 390 so that means 70 targets left for the rest of the team to hit 460. I don’t think they’ll go over that because of their running game.

Eagles have Brown, Smith, and Watkins...Bills have the underrated Gabriel Davis and McKeznie to go with Diggs...Dolphins just added Berrios to Waddle and Hill...the Brady Bucs ran with Evans, Godwin, and Brown...I'm sure the Saints thought Olave, Thomas, and Landry had a run in them...same for the Jets with Wilson, Davis, and Moore (they've since added Lazzard, Hardman, dropped Moore, and there's still talk of an OBJ or Mike Evans or even drafting Johnston if they don't trade 13 and he falls)....Detroit had a quality NFL WR with some experience, DJ Chark, catch the 4th most passes among WRs on their roster...Arizona's got Hopkins, Brown and Moore...The Browns just traded for Elijah Moore to join Amari Cooper and Peoples-Jones...Raiders have Adams, Meyers, and Renfrow...Kirk, Ridley, and Jones in Jacksonville...It's only going to become more common! Mooney finished the year with an ankle injury and Claypool is coming off an all around bad year in 2022. Sorry but I just can't wrap my head around the pushback against knocking these guys down the depth chart. Fields threw 318 passes to 8 different WRs last year, there's plenty for everyone Are you seriously saying Watkins, Berrios, McKenzie, Elijah Moore, Lazard, Hardman, Rondale Moore are what you consider top 3 WRs, but Mooney and Claypool aren’t?? You realized that almost all those names basically had the same type of season or worse than Claypool’s right? Number wise… And some of them had their “best” year. Like I’m trying to figure out where you are going with this. It’s not a pushback against knocking these guys down the depth. It’s the fact you like completely ignore/underrate Mooney and Claypool, but yet see somebody like Elijah Moore as a better WR. Could you draft a guy like JSN or Johnston or Addison and add more weapon?? Sure, but it’s not a priority since Bears added Moore to the mix. I think you underestimate how much he’ll help the rest of WRs and just how talented Mooney/Claypool really are.

Do you even watch NFL? Or are you just looking at numbers and nothing else?? What top teams are three deep outside of Bengals?? “The one bottom line fact either of us really care about is that, without doubt, Claypool was not a starting caliber NFL WR last year on a team that currently only for sure has one.“- Outside of Jefferson, Kupp, Chase, and Tyreek, everyone else would’ve not been a starting caliber WR with the QBs that was throwing to Claypool last year. You’re also forgetting about Mooney here so Claypool is #3. Him at #3 WR is better than a lot of the other teams #3.

2 words for you: Matt Painter I grew up 30 mins NW from Purdue. It’s funny how everyone back home thinks it’s on the players every year. It's not. It's Painter and his horsefeathers ass outdated system. It’s great to rack up wins during season and everything, but when it comes to pressure or tournament time, it’s either mediocre at best or worse. It basically reminds me of the Lovie’s Bears era where it’s all based on elite running game and defense when the rest of the league was going towards all offense. This is a bunch of crap. Keep telling yourself that

Looks like you just did This is honestly the most frustrating part of this horsefeathers. EVERYBODY was jawing all year about how Purdue is over-rated. What am I supposed to do with that? Just say horsefeathers it and stop watching them? They win 29 games. They are a top 5 team all year. They get a horsefeathering 1 seed. KenPom measures them as being an elite balanced team. Then they horsefeathers on the court come tourney time. Why is this Purdue's fate every horsefeathering year? Every horsefeathering Year 2 words for you: Matt Painter I grew up 30 mins NW from Purdue. It’s funny how everyone back home thinks it’s on the players every year. It's not. It's Painter and his shitty ass outdated system. It’s great to rack up wins during season and everything, but when it comes to pressure or tournament time, it’s either mediocre at best or worse. It basically reminds me of the Lovie’s Bears era where it’s all based on elite running game and defense when the rest of the league was going towards all offense.

it's a lot more than solid i may have set myself up for the "3 1st rd pick + multiple 2,3 rds) dream, but yea I get it. Moore has been productive I think Poles values Moore at least a 2025 1st and possibly a 2024 3rd. I'm just assuming something along that line so if you were to add those picks instead of Moore, that's basically your dream package. I would be curious to know if Panthers had an alternative package where it was just all picks or Burns was included instead of Moore that Poles could choose from. Or what another team was offering for the 1st.

That timing mechanism with his hands always makes it look like he is surprised that someone is throwing a baseball toward him. He cannot make the weight transfer pivot for some reason and its all upper body and top hand. He's such a great athlete that his natural strength carries him. It's almost like watching Charles Barkley hit a golf ball. At least Charles fixed his swing!!

My buddy still won't tell me just how bad DaBum was at Windermere!! Pretty sure he's just super annoyed with me and won't tell me since I ask him every single time we hang out.

I feel like Titans would be that 2nd team we traded down to get as many picks as possible if they went that route. Like say we traded with Colts at 4 and Poles isn't completely enamored with Carter/Anderson and Titans wanted to get whoever left of the top 3 QBs. I can see that happening. Same thing with Carolina at 9. Although first 2 picks for 3 years is pretty enticing although I agree that they probably have to throw in another pick or 2 with Bears throwing in 1-2 picks with the 1st their way. Like their 2023 3rd and we throw like 2023 5th and 2024 5th or something along that line. [attachment=0]pff_mock_results.png[/attachment] I did this mock just to see what kind of picks we would stockpile if we traded down twice. In this case, it was to 4 then 9. Bears ended up with a pick in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th in 2024 while also gaining a 2- 2nd, 3rd, and 4th this year. Poles would have a ton of ammo to do whatever he wants. Could trade down for more present/future picks, move up into the end of 1st (most likely) or any other rounds. This is pretty much a best case scenario and I don't think anything like this has ever happened before or at least not within the top 10 so wouldn't count on it.

I feel like Titans would be that 2nd team we traded down to get as many picks as possible if they went that route. Like say we traded with Colts at 4 and Poles isn't completely enamored with Carter/Anderson and Titans wanted to get whoever left of the top 3 QBs. I can see that happening. Same thing with Carolina at 9. Although first 2 picks for 3 years is pretty enticing although I agree that they probably have to throw in another pick or 2 with Bears throwing in 1-2 picks with the 1st their way. Like their 2023 3rd and we throw like 2023 5th and 2024 5th or something along that line.

I don't know who 90% of those dudes are he had to have slipped 2-3 fake names in there

Does it only go the other way? You can declare and then retract within the grace period? Yeah...those that have declared for the draft have 72 hours after the deadline to change their minds Ok thanks! Must’ve misread it then.