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marquis has negative value and i wouldn't classify derosa as a "very good" player. not unless he duplicates his 2008...which won't happen all things considered, dero in 2008 was fantastic, in 2007 and 2006 he was merely very good...350 wOBA at second base and paying about $1M per win over replacement, thats freakin great i don't think an .800 ops guy can ever be considered "very good" unless he's a gold glove shortstop or catcher and/or steals bases like jacoby ellsbury or hes merely an adequate middle infielder or catcher so an average 2B with an .800 ops is a "very good" player now?
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marquis has negative value and i wouldn't classify derosa as a "very good" player. not unless he duplicates his 2008...which won't happen all things considered, dero in 2008 was fantastic, in 2007 and 2006 he was merely very good...350 wOBA at second base and paying about $1M per win over replacement, thats freakin great i don't think an .800 ops guy can ever be considered "very good" unless he's a gold glove shortstop or catcher and/or steals bases like jacoby ellsbury Would you consider Dustin Pedroia to be "very good"? Because his OPS was .869 last year. DeRosa's was .857. Obviously, Pedroia's much more valuable, but DeRosa was very good for a second baseman last year. i already said that he was very good last year.
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then again, trading derosa would make milton bradley look less attractive.
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Giles isn't going anywhere. He vetoed a few trades last season, including one to the Cubs, as I recall. Yup and one to the Red Sox as well.
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marquis has negative value and i wouldn't classify derosa as a "very good" player. not unless he duplicates his 2008...which won't happen all things considered, dero in 2008 was fantastic, in 2007 and 2006 he was merely very good...350 wOBA at second base and paying about $1M per win over replacement, thats freakin great i don't think an .800 ops guy can ever be considered "very good" unless he's a gold glove shortstop or catcher and/or steals bases like jacoby ellsbury
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maybe not negative value, but i think it would be more of a "we'll take his salary off your hands" type thing. i think at this point hendry doesn't expect to actually get anything back for marquis. you're right though, the phils might need to give up another lower level guy
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marquis has negative value and i wouldn't classify derosa as a "very good" player. not unless he duplicates his 2008...which won't happen
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if philly gives up happ they are certainly going to get more than marquis.... hence the derosa rumors. Cubs give- Vitters/Pie/DeRosa/Marquis/Hart Cubs get- Peavy Phillies give- Happ Phillies get- Marquis, DeRosa Orioles give- Olson Orioles get- Pie Padres give- Peavy Padres get- Vitters/Olson/Happ/Hart That would be my guess
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Who said it would be all those guys? A) we dont really know what the package is B) if you choose to believe one of the rumored packages, then you should choose to believe that adding derosa to the package would take out at least one of the other players. i'd bet everyting i owned that they dont trade all 5 of those guys for peavy
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that post has nothing to do with anything, but okay
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Yes. How about put Cedeno at short and platoon the cajuns?
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http://masnsports.com/2008/12/peavy-deal-heating-up-fast.html
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irrelevant i think people are making this out as more than it is. never did he say a deal was close. just because he found a package that satisfies him doesn't mean hendry can do it yet, or even that he accepts the supposed deal. i fully expect this to drag on for a while still
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it's kind of funny that most people use the ignore feature to ignore a-holes.......meph uses it to ignore people who he doesn't feel are intelligent enough to converse with him...which apparently is pretty much everybody.
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Am I blocked? you're not one of the ~70 or so that aren't. which means i just havent found anything youve said that hurts my brain so much to block you....yet. do you have yourself on foe?
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Oh hell http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/ please be true please be true
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Again, Rosenthal didn't say the Phils were interested in Peavy. The guy misinterpreted what Rosenthal said
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Angel Guzman could easily be the player whose injury history Jim Hendry was upfront about. I dont know about moving DeRosa. The main focus of the off season was supposed to be offense. Pitching wasnt even really on the radar until Paevy entered the picture. If we do end up moving DeRosa in such a deal, I hope theres a real possibility that we can get someone like Bradley or Abreu as well. The main focus of the offseason wasn't really about offense.... it was about left handed offense. Maybe they want to give the left handed Fontenot a full time shot and free up payroll at the same time. If that's what it would take to get Peavy and also that RF that hendry/Lou are obsessed with, I'd do it. I'm curious about Fontenot
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How could we be misinterpreting what he said? I think it's pretty obvious what he's saying. He didn't say "possible third team in the Peavy derby" or anything like that, he said "third team i discussions between the Cubs and Padres"... meaning those 3 teams are having the talks.
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It's already been explained that Fraley misquoted Rosenthal.
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Winter Meetings Rumor Thread
17 Seconds replied to UMFan83's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
I think this thread should be about all winter meeting rumors that aren't about Peavy. -
Winter Meetings Rumor Thread
17 Seconds replied to UMFan83's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
It almost feels inevitable that we wind up with Ibanez...which sucks because he's pretty much my last choice -
Actually it was Lou Piniella, and its wasn't "Suck it Lou" it was like "I wish Lou was here to see this" or something like that. I'd probably hate Lou Piniella if I was Scott Eyre too. Yeah. Damn him for trading Eyre to a team that won the World Series. Damn him straight to hell! Yes, because we all know that the reason they traded him was so he could win the World Series with another team It was a sucky thing to do, but business is business. Eyre was the odd man out. Cotts and Marshall were his lefties out of the pen, both of whom had futures with the team. Eyre would have been gone after the season. No, he was treasted unfairly and it was stupid for Lou to do it. He wasn't the odd man out of anything. He was better than Cotts. He was never given a chance in 2008, even though he proved with Philly that he could still be very valuable. Lou hated him for some reason and it hurt the team. If I were Scott Eyre I'd dislike Lou. With Philly 14.3 IP 8 H 3 ER 3 BB 18 K 1.88 ERA .77 WHIP He was also great down the stretch in 2007. Lou just disliked him for some reason
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Actually it was Lou Piniella, and its wasn't "Suck it Lou" it was like "I wish Lou was here to see this" or something like that. I'd probably hate Lou Piniella if I was Scott Eyre too. Yeah. Damn him for trading Eyre to a team that won the World Series. Damn him straight to hell! Yes, because we all know that the reason they traded him was so he could win the World Series with another team
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Dye for Bailey done deal?
17 Seconds replied to RammyFanny's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
hahaha...that is like the perfect fit. almost too perfect get it cause hes fat