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I like how the "I just had an amazing and really long post, but I lost it so now I can't show you how awesome it was" line is becoming more and more popular. Anyways, comparing Aramis to Bradley is pretty ridiculous. First of all, and I've already said this several times, I didn't expect Bradley to be an .825 OPS guy. I expected high .800's. I just said it wouldn't have surprised me if he wasn't that good. Comparing him to Aramis is silly. Bradley has had exactly 3 "seasons" where he finished with an OPS above .835. Here they are- 2003- .923 (.377 AB) 2007- .947 (209 AB) 2008- .999 (414 AB) Not only are there only 3 seasons of him being legitmately good, but they aren't even full seasons. That's basically 2 full seasons of being good. In between those good seasons, there were 3 straight years of his "meh" numbers I'm talking about. Now let's compare to Ramirez... 04- .951 (547 ab) 05- .926 (463 ab) 06- .912 (594 ab) 07- .915 (506 ab) 08- .898 (554 ab) Not only does Ramirez have 5 straight seasons with an OPS of .898 or higher, but he's stayed relatively healthy for the majority of that time, only failing to reach 500 at-bats once. So you think it's okay to compare a guy who stays on the field and has been well over his career averages for 5 years in a row to a guy who has played to his career averages 3 times in the past 5 years? Not to mention the season where bradley was good weren't even full seasons. Seriously, come on. Ramirez hasn't had even a mediocre year since 03. He's been awesome every year. He's established that he is a great hitter. Bradley hasn't done that. He's shown to be a great hitter for about the last 600 at-bats, most of which came in Texas. The previous 3 seasons, he's blown. He'd have to have 4 straight full badass seasons before you can compare him to what Aramis is right now. I don't even understand how you could try to compare the 2. I think people are using the home/road stuff as a crutch and overblowing it. I agree that his numbers are skewed a bit, but not enough to make some kind of huge difference... which is shown in his careers splits.

yeah let's just throw away career stats, even though he's played to those numbers 3 of the past 5 seasons. .810 career home ops .833 career road ops yet he's some stud hitter because you can cherry pick some splits over recent years that make him look a lot better than he is. so how long do we give him before we admit that we're probably getting .840 OPS Bradley this season? another week? another months? next season? that'd be fine with me, he probably has to ops .950 the rest of the year to get back to .840 so i say bring it on. i don't think so. isn't his ops in the low .700's right now?

i've showed much more, including his numbers the last 5 seasons. it's just that peole are pretending like he was some badass hitter for all 5 of those years just because his road splits those years were good (and not even all of them were good), FOR HIS CAREER HE IS AN .833 OPS ROAD HITTER. stop acting like he's been crippled by home parks, especially when he pumped up all his stats by a monster career year in a park that has andruw jones OPSing 1.000 this season. was he affected by bad park luck most of his career? yes, obviously. i talked about that in the offseason when i was optimistic about him. but let's stop acting like all those crappy years he had were just the result of parks. all that means is that he would have been a little less mediocre those years. yay!

yeah let's just throw away career stats, even though he's played to those numbers 3 of the past 5 seasons. .810 career home ops .833 career road ops yet he's some stud hitter because you can cherry pick some splits over recent years that make him look a lot better than he is. so how long do we give him before we admit that we're probably getting .840 OPS Bradley this season? another week? another months? next season?

oh and since the only argument for bradley's career poor numbers is playing in bad parks career home- .810 career road- .833 i guess he was just unlucky in those 1611 at-bats. look, i'm not saying bradley is awful. i actually thought he'd be pretty good (i said .885ish OPS before the season started) but i also was very worried and wasn't sure why everybody thought it was such a sure thing that he'd rake. he has been inconsistent, at best, over his career. i wasn't only worried about his health and his head, i was worried about how good he might be. when you give 30 mil to a guy who can't stay on the field and is a headcase, he should be a better bet to be good than bradley is. bradley is a question mark all around.

Okay you're right. Bradley was an .890 OPS guy from 04-08. Except in 2004 and 2005 and 2006 and he only played like 2 months n 07 but dude was .890 opsing it like crazy show me where he said bradley has been an .890 ops guy on the road for the past 5 season also show me how many at-bats those totals are for. like 200 a year? okay, okay. this dude is awesome. but only sometimes and only on the road and that's only for small chunks of at-bats. seriously though, it shouldn't surprise me that you're defending him so hard and acting like he's some badass hitter. you were the one who kept saying he was hands down our best hitter before the season (ahead of ramirez) even though bradley has clearly been a mediocre hitter for his career. it was all "his early career numbers were when he was a different hitter. for the last 2 seasons he's clearly found it". now 2 months into the season and this guy looks absolutely brutal and we're still trying to rationalize. the bottom line is when you have career numbes as mediocre as bradley does and you're sturggling this much this deep into the season, you're probably not going to have a good year.

he's not a piece of trash, he's awesome. he just tends to suck most years

cute. no substance to your posts or even any effort whatsoever to actually argue what i said. standard post from you

either show me where what i said is wrong or just stop posting to me. that garbage is really old.

Okay you're right. Bradley was an .890 OPS guy from 04-08. Except in 2004 and 2005 and 2006 and he only played like 2 months n 07 but dude was .890 opsing it like crazy

His career numbers are mediocre (at best, for a corner outfielder) and the arguments for him being a great hitter all revolve around a few different chunks of at-bats over the course of his career, and I'm the one cherry picking stats? Righhttttttttt When you want to grow up and have a reasonable discussion using grown up logic, let me know.

it's .890 (.292/.390/.500) over the last five seasons. his age 22 suckitude means diddly poo; why you choose to continually embarrass yourself by citing career numbers is puzzling. Uhh, maybe it has something to do with the fact that he's played to those career numbers for many of the last several years. As in 2004, 2005, 2006, and part of 2007. Saying he's been an .890 OPS guy for the last 5 seasons is pretty ridiculous. He's been a 1.000 OPS hitter for the last 600 at-bats (before this season) spread out over the least 2 season and then played to his career totals the previous 3 seasons. for the better part of the last 5 years, he's played to his career totals. i just keep reading the phrase played to his career totals, whatever the hell that even means wait facts are ridiculous? It's obnoxious and misleading, and you know it. He hasn't been an .890 OPS guy for the last 5 seasons. He had a monster month or 2 in San Diego and then a monster 420 at-bats in texas. The previous 3 years he sucked.

Eff it. Just throw Fox at third. Right now the garbage we're running out there has been terrible on both sides of the ball from that position. It's at the point where I don't even care. I'm just sick of seeing the same garbage that we're rotating between 3b and 2b every day right now.

You act like last year was a fluke year, yet he's had 3 seasons of over .900 OPS, and had a 1.004 OPS with the Padres of all teams in the 42 games he played there. Come on. You can't just say "he's had 3 season with an OPS over .900." In 2007 he had only 144 at-bats. In 2003 he had 377. Last year he had 414. That's not even 2 full seasons worth of at-bats, let alone 3. Bottom line is he has a career .823 OPS in like 3,000 at-bats. I just don't understand why everybody was so sure he'd be awesome. I though he'd be pretty good, but not some middle of the lineup force. Just a switch hitting bat who can hit .850+ from both sides of the plate. Milton Bradley career OPS as a lefty- .798

it's .890 (.292/.390/.500) over the last five seasons. his age 22 suckitude means diddly poo; why you choose to continually embarrass yourself by citing career numbers is puzzling. Uhh, maybe it has something to do with the fact that he's played to those career numbers for many of the last several years. As in 2004, 2005, 2006, and part of 2007. Saying he's been an .890 OPS guy for the last 5 seasons is pretty ridiculous. He's been a 1.000 OPS hitter for the last 600 at-bats (before this season) spread out over the least 2 season and then played to his career totals the previous 3 seasons. for the better part of the last 5 years, he's played to his career totals.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/may/20/n70258234820-peavy-trade-chicago-white-sox-may-be-/ Buster Olney also just mentioned it on ESPN and said he thinks it will probably get done.

You act like last year was a fluke year, yet he's had 3 seasons of over .900 OPS, and had a 1.004 OPS with the Padres of all teams in the 42 games he played there. Come on. You can't just say "he's had 3 season with an OPS over .900." In 2007 he had only 144 at-bats. In 2003 he had 377. Last year he had 414. That's not even 2 full seasons worth of at-bats, let alone 3. Bottom line is he has a career .823 OPS in like 3,000 at-bats. I just don't understand why everybody was so sure he'd be awesome. I though he'd be pretty good, but not some middle of the lineup force.

Almost blew another one tonight. Walked the bases loaded to put the tying run at 3rd with 1 out but then struck the next 2 out. He looked really weird without the goatee. It reminded me of the 20 K game.

If he was consistently that good he would be a hall of fame caliber player so clearly it was an outlier season for him. But we are comparing him to Jacque Jones and David Delucci and I will be comfortable with him on my team any day over those two. The point is that none of the 3 have had very good careers yet bradley was talked about as some stud hitter all offseason

So you don't think Bradley's .999 OPS last season in Texas was a fluke, even though he's a career .825 OPS guy?

i know. that's what we said. Yea I dont know what else you would call it. it's the same thing with his constant hit and runs when we're not scoring, calling out guys when they have one bad game, trying soriano out of the leadoff spot multiple times but only for a game or 2 (and then claiming he actually tried it), bencing good hitters because they make a defensive mistake even though the alternative is clearly worse, etc....

i know. that's what we said.

I've been saying it for a while. Lou is a panic machine, and that's the last thing this team needs. It's not surprising that his teams keep choking in the playoffs. He just keeps getting worse and worse as he gets older.

this guy can rake! .999 ops last season! please stay healthy milton! forget his career .825 OPS.... this guy is a force!

yeah, that's completely ridiculous