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  1. 17 Seconds
    how many times does it have to be explained to you that era for reliever doesn't even show results? using era for a reliever is just as bad as using hits for a hitter also, by your logic, wins show results
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    winner
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    I agree that his past two seasons shouldn't warrant that contract. 5 years? Maybe, based on reputation alone... but for that ridiculous amount? Eh, not so much. This is a fun game. It's called Which of these stats belongs to John Lackey and which one belongs to Gavin Floyd. Both are combined stats from 08 and 09 (stats rounded to nearest hundredth of a decimal)... aaaaaaaaand GO! Statline 1: 117 ERA+ | 1.25 WHIP | 4.27 FIP Statline 2: 118 ERA+ | 1.25 WHIP | 4.13 FIP One of those stat lines is worth $16.5 million a year, and the other is... well, Gavin Floyd. fangraphs has floyd as being worth a combined $31.3 million combined over the last 2 years
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    something tells me that this protection will be a little better than bradley's "75 games and the 3rd year is guaranteed" deal
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    In previous seasons I think that fear would be warranted. But I don't think people realize that Hendry can't shell out big money this offseason, even if he wanted to. He probably can't give Marlon Byrd something like 3 year at 24m. The biggest contract he could probably give is something simliar to what Cameron got. But even that would probably be on the high end. Something like Byrd at 6m in 2010 and 8m in 2011, with some type of vesting option based on production is about as high as we probably can go. Which IMO is probably too high, so hopefully another team gives him something like 3 year at 20-21m. I'm sure Byrd's agent wants the best deal possible, but he got burnt pretty bad with this Bradley fiasco. How quickly is this guy going to want to work magic with Hendry again? I'm curious of what Bradley and Byrd's relationship is like, also. i'd say that all of that stuff probably takes a back seat to $$$
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    Huh, how is lackey better than Zambrano. Zambrano has better numbers and is three years younger. Zambrano is a nut case but his numbers are better than Lackey's. please tell me how Lackey is better than Z. umm, the last time zambrano had better numbers than lackey was 2005 Also, 2008. And if you're talking about how either would fit on the Cubs, or any NL team, there's very little difference between them. how did zambrano have better numbers than lackey in 2008? lackey era- 3.75 zambrano era- 3.91 lackey whip- 1.23 zambrano whip- 1.29 lackey k:bb- 130:40 zambrano k:bb- 130:72 zambrano gave up less home runs, and hits, but that's it. rate wise, lackey was clearly better than z in 2008, and has been noticably better from 2006-2009 edit: just noticed lackey had a higher FIP than z in 2008, so you might have an argument. the point remains though.... that lackey overall has been better than zambrano in the last 4 seasons
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    they use era a lot too
  8. 17 Seconds
    hahhhahahh
  9. 17 Seconds
    yeah, they gave kyle lohse 4/41
  10. 17 Seconds
    I'm just gonna throw this out there....maybe each year is different. Maybe each year requires a different approach based on the free agent market, the demand for those players, the salaries being bandied about, the perceived quality of the players you currently have under contract, the number of holes you need to fill, and the moves that your division rivals are making. Maybe. Obviously. Given the totality of circumstances, I'd love to hear the rationale for why moving swiftly was the wrong approach last year, but conversely playing wait-and-see is the wrong approach this year. are you joking? because one contract was bad and one was good. and because there was a huge market for corner outfielders last offseason. the market for center fielders this offseason is small and we're now left to marlon byrd as the top option. are you really going to pretend like you don't understand this?
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    You're right, he's done a damn good job putting together that impressive 587-545 record with one of the top payrolls in the league. Let's just give him some time, fellas. At this point, he really doesn't have any kind of track record or body of work on which to base our criticism. There's plenty to criticize Hendry for. Folks just come off looking pretty foolish when he does things one way, and then the opposite way, and both times he gets slammed. once again, that's not happening here. you're just confused... yet again. comparing a signing of bradley where he overpaid to a non-signing of cameron where he was had for a great deal is [expletive].
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    Aren't we a little dramatic? I wasn't asking you or anybody to ignore bad moves Hendry has made or asking you to give them a chance. I said hey lets see what the heck we do this offseason, before we complain how mediocre the team is going to be. Also if you think Hendry is not capable of making good moves, then I don't know what to tell you. But lets at least see what moves we make this offseason before we make these type of judgements or start killing people. Exactly, Cameron was the top guy I wanted and I'm disappointed we didn't get him. But the Cubs still have a very talented team, and they still can make some good moves to make them better this offseason. Especially with so many guys still on the market. This will probably be a slow moving market with good players still out there in mid to late January. So people need to be patient and not call this a horrible offseason, because we haven't done anything yet in mid December. Don't you get it? Last year Hendry screwed up by diving into the free agent market early, and missing out on the great bargains available later (Dunn, Abreu, etc.) This year he's screwing up by letting other teams acquire guys for full price before XMas. Duh! yeah, because overpaying for guys early is the same thing as getting a good bargain early. 2/15.5 for cameron was an absolute steal
  13. 17 Seconds
    man, the milton bradley signing was an absolute disaster. it literally could not have gone any worse.
  14. 17 Seconds
    i wish more people hated steve stone because he'd be perfect for this
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    in tribute...
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    kanye?
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    no it's not overdramatic when your defense of hendry is the same stuff over and over. all im saying is that as of right now, this team looks pretty mediocre. i don't know how you can say otherwise. we were mediocre last season and so far the only significant move of the offseason has been losing harden. and where did i say hendry isn't capabel of making a good move? i'm saying that the payroll and bradley situation is going to make that pretty hard. we're more or less locked in with this team after we get a centerfielder. we're going to be relying on bounceback years from guys to compete. i'm not saying we have no chance. i'm saying that as of right now, this team looks pretty mediocre. p.s. it's probably not wise to spoil the ending of a tv show's season one night after the finale aired. if somebody hadn't already spoiled it for rob, he's probably be pretty pissed.
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    and you could just eas easily reference lee's monster year, or wells ridiculous production, or lilly's career year, or the fact that we lost harden. i'm not saying it's a guarantee we're going to suck. im saying that as of right now, it looks like we're going to end up heading into ST with a pretty mediocre roster and will be hoping on rebound years from a lot of guys to compete. assuming the cubs make the small type moves it looks like they're going to, what would you guess for the cubs win total next season? i know its pointless to guess now, but you could give me a general idea. the point is that i bet you'd guess a record that was fairly mediocre.
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    You probably said that going into 2008 too. Plus there's still tons of time left this offseason and no team outside maybe the Phillies looks good right now. If the Cardinals resign Matt Holliday they might be added to that mix. But just about every NL team has simliar questionmarks or issues as we currently have. Our offseason hasn't even really started yet. It's not like were about done and just added a bunch of crap players. Scott Podsednik didn't get signed to be the everyday CF and leadoff guy and Hendry didn't name Aaron Miles(the fact he's off the team is a postive) the everyday 2b and number 2 hitter. So can we chill with the doom and gloom stuff in December please? Or at least until the team actually makes some moves. ugh just give it a rest JUST GIVE JIM A CHANCE YOU GUYS. i know he keeps making terrible moves, BUT HE MADE AN AWESOME TEAM IN 2008. just give him this 18th chance and you won't regret it this time
  20. 17 Seconds
    would probably hurt them in the long run, but this would make out 2010 hopes even smaller
  21. 17 Seconds
    our team is going to be incredibly mediocre next season
  22. 17 Seconds
    he's only done it for 2 years. and the reason he's been moved twice is BECAUSE he's pitched lights out ball this seems like more of a risk management type move for the phils. they could have just extended lee and hoped he pitched like he has the last 2 seasons, but that would be pretty risky (at least for the money that he'll demand) considering his track record. i wouldn't want to give 15-20 million for a guy like that. halladay is a much safer play (not to mention he's a better pitcher. the phils will have halladay/hamels for the next 4 years. that's pretty beastly (despite hamels' 2009)
  23. 17 Seconds
    that [expletive] [expletive] [expletive] i lost 147.10-146.60 that last interception he threw on the pointless hail mary into the endzone as time expired expired (+2 points for tennessee's defense) did it. the last play of my opponent's day.
  24. 17 Seconds
    granderson- fail cameron- fail byrd- ? ankiel- ? pods- ? let's see how low we can go
  25. 17 Seconds
    im gonna be annoyed when the red sox trade ellsbury and buchholz for adrian gonzalez
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