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If you're talking about Hefney's fair catch, I don't think the team is very focused today. Not sure what the problem is, but we're making mental mistakes left and right. Yeah, I was. I can understand going back a yard or two, but he went back inside the 5.

I already dislike the announcers for the Auburn-Nebraska game.

Is it that hard to figure out you stand at the ten yard line and don't move back on a punt return?

I love New Years Day football.

Well this wont take long then will it, i say it BEFORE they win. The ACC does suck, Wake aint no great shakes and you know it. The ACC champ game was awful. Wake appears to have a very solid D, so if the 'ville can put some points up that will be a nice. Wake's offense is pretty average at best, and the QB doesnt strike any fear in anybody. If the 'ville can get a nice lead early they may run away with this one. I know and it's a no win situation for Louisville and all the Big East teams for that matter. West Virginia gets stuck win Georgia Tech and Rutgers gets K-State. If they lose there is the "see, I told you they weren't any good" argument and if they win then there is the argument I stated above. If WVU beats Georgia Tech I'll give them their due. The Tech D is stout, so especially if WVU racks up the points, I'll give them even more credit. Rutgers on the other hand, bright as their future is, I can't give them credit for beating KState. It's simply not that impressive. If they do next year what they did this year, it'll mean much more than one game against KState. Unfortunately, Steve Slaton is questionable for the Gator Bowl.

There's no way an NBA team from the JV East beats the Lakers (circa 2004). ](*,)

Yeah yeah... Damn Carson Palmer. I hope he gets arrested. It's only a matter of time.

Well Griese's QB rating was like 50 points higher :-) Maynard's QB rating was 118.75 today. Play him.

Bowl Standings by Conference Conference W L PF PA Wins Over -------------------------------------------------------------- ACC 4 2 148 137 WAC, Pac-10, Big Ten, I-A Ind Big 12 3 3 162 217 SEC, Big Ten (2) Big East 2 0 61 17 C-USA, Big 12 Big Ten 0 3 72 94 C-USA 0 4 73 134 I-A Ind 0 1 24 25 MAC 1 1 38 51 Sun Belt M. West 3 1 112 48 MAC, Pac-10, C-USA Pac-10 2 3 143 171 Big 12 (2) SEC 3 1 134 114 ACC (2), C-USA Sun Belt 1 1 55 48 C-USA WAC 2 1 81 57 MWC, Pac-10 Through Sunday

Week 17 vance: - Mark: - ndistops: 7-9 soccer: 7-9 Ryan: - Truffle: 7-9 UMfan: - rawaction: - ChiCubsFan: - Overall: vance: 104-97 Mark: 38-48 ndistops: 121-129 soccer: 118-132 Ryan: 39-31 Truffle: 92-70 UMfan: 46-76 rawaction: 28-35 ChiCubsFan: 30-37 Note: There have been 6 ties overall (2 in Week 3, 2 in Week 5, 1 in Week 7, 1 in Week 11)

Nevermind. Miami picks off a pass and that will end the game.

Nevada is down 21-20 to Miami with 30 seconds left and they are driving.

Offense by the Bears? No. BTW, does Lovie only have one facial expression? Because I never see him show any sort of emotion. Every time they zoom in on him he looks exactly the same.

He's thrown for more yards than Grossman today.

Great play call by Lovie. Got nothing to lose.

I honestly don't think he will. Rex is his guy. Yeah, if Lovie was going to go with Griese, he would have done it a few weeks ago.

Are you kidding me? You are basing this off of one game. Look at the stats on the year. 10 of the 16 AFC teams had records of 4-0 or 3-1 against the NFC this year and two others had records of 2-2. Only 1 NFC team (Dallas) had a record over .500 against the AFC this year while 8 had records of 2-2. New Orleans went 1-3. So did Philly and the NY Giants. Chicago and Seattle both went 2-2. That means the six NFC playoff teams went 8-14 against the AFC. The six AFC playoff teams? Try 21-3. The Bears played even with New England at New England with Rex having an awful game. I don't think it's a stretch to say the Bears are right there with Indy and New England. The Jets and Chiefs are really not that good. New Orleans and Philly have certainly played better than both of them over the course of this year. Seattle and Dallas are right there with them. But who else? Denver? No better than any 8-8/7-8 NFC team. Cincy and Jacksonville? Most inconsistent teams in the league. Tennessee? Not a very good team, just a very fortunate team. New Orleans was drilled at home by Baltimore. The final score was 35-22 but it was 35-7 after 3 quarters. They also lost at Pittsburgh and at home against Cincinnati but both games were close. They also lost at home to Washington. Philly? You mean the one that was blasted by Indy and Tennessee in consecutive weeks. I realize McNabb was hurt in the Tennessee game and didn't play against Indy but I believe the defense is the same one that allowed Addai to run for 171 yards and 4 TD's. The last five weeks they beat up on NFC teams. Dallas...are you kidding me? They lost to the Lions today. Let that sink in. The Lions. Their defense is horrible and Tony Romo isn't looking anywhere near the player he was a few weeks ago. Seattle...the team that lost to the 49ers twice and Cardinals once this year? I'll give them a little more respect because they have the ability, with Hasselbeck and Alexander, to be a good team but they haven't proved to me that they can be. The problem with Seattle is their -9 turnover margin. You left them out but, the New York Giants? Um, no. Chicago? They are the most complete team in the NFC but that isn't saying anything. They had to go to overtime to beat Tampa Bay, had to come back to beat Detroit last week and are looking flat out horrible today against Green Bay. And I have no faith in Rex Grossman. They're good enough to beat most of the AFC teams but after the Bears, the NFC is very weak. On neutral sites, San Diego, Baltimore, and New England would all be favored over any of the NFC teams. Indy would be favored over most of them. The Jets played the NFC's top team tough (scoreless at half, lost 10-0). The AFC went 40-24 (.625) this year against the NFC and that discrepancy - which I presented to year earlier (21-3) - gets even worse at the top when you consider the playoff teams. The facts back this up. The AFC is clearly a superior conference this year.

I hated Charles Woodson the last couple years when he was on the Raiders and this makes me hate him even more. He had 6 interceptions in his final five years with the Raiders. Three of those years he only played half the year but still. 6 picks in his final 54 games with the Raiders and 8 in 16 games with the Packers.

So how long until Lovie puts Griese in?

Did you used to have a different Name? I cant believe, with as much as i'm on here, i have totally missed someone making 6000 posts... Look under his name ;) It doesn't say anything underneath his name for Premium users. ETA: He used to be Willis... something or other.

That's what I thought. It went past the LOS. yeah but it sure didn't look like he ever left the tackle box. I always thought it was an either/or. I've always thought it was both. Nick Barnett looks like Mega Man. I thought it was both also.

It's not because the refs hate the Bears, remember?

Are you kidding me? You are basing this off of one game. Look at the stats on the year. 10 of the 16 AFC teams had records of 4-0 or 3-1 against the NFC this year and two others had records of 2-2. Only 1 NFC team (Dallas) had a record over .500 against the AFC this year while 8 had records of 2-2. New Orleans went 1-3. So did Philly and the NY Giants. Chicago and Seattle both went 2-2. That means the six NFC playoff teams went 8-14 against the AFC. The six AFC playoff teams? Try 21-3.

Week 17 vance: - Mark: - ndistops: 7-9 soccer: 7-9 Ryan: - Truffle: 7-9 UMfan: - rawaction: - ChiCubsFan: - Overall: vance: 104-97 Mark: 38-48 ndistops: 121-129 soccer: 118-132 Ryan: 39-31 Truffle: 92-70 UMfan: 46-76 rawaction: 28-35 ChiCubsFan: 30-37 Note: There have been 6 ties overall (2 in Week 3, 2 in Week 5, 1 in Week 7, 1 in Week 11)

Denver's going home and KC is in the playoffs.