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  1. I am of the school of thought that your don't trade YOUNG, and QAULITY pitching for hitting. Would Houston trade Roy Oswalt to the Yanks for Alex Rodriguez (if money doesn't play a part)? Would the White Sox trade Mark Buehrle for Migeul Cabrera? The answer is NO. Quality pitching is so hard to find, and quality YOUNG pitching is even harder to find, and when you do find it, you keep it. If Abreu was between 25-29, then yeah, I would trade Z for him, but at 31 yrs old, then no, I wouldn't unless the Cubs got Cole Hamels or Gavin Floyd back in the deal. Now if Philly wants to do a KW for Abreu, then I am on board. :lol:
  2. Does anybody when did the Cubs sign Donald Veal? Ba.com has him listed as signed.
  3. You may not refer to it as scouting(or evaluating), but that is how it has come off as. I am not an adovcate of keeping Hill, but to trade him for another UNDERACHIEVING OFer like Kearns, isn't the way to go. If you can get a Jose Guillen type OFer with a package starting of Hill, you do it, but not Kearns. I would gladly trade Murton/Hill/Patterson for Miguel Cabrera. :lol: :twisted:
  4. I am a fan of Harvey, not because of his "power", but because he isn't strictly a "power" guy. Alot of scouts raves about his athelthicism, and while his "strike zone judgement" needs to be improved, I can't see why Harvey can't be a Adam Dunn type hitter, with a better average. And I am talking about a FEARED MIDDLE OF THE ORDER type hitter for Harvey. Harvey, IMO, has a better chance at succeeding then Dopirak, and I am a fan of Dopirak. I don't QUITE share your optimism about Matt Murton. Don't get me wrong, I love the "energy" he brings to the club, the "unique" skill set--take pitches, make pitchers frustrated---but I don't see Murton as a 30 homerun guy, unless we are talking career yr. I actually see alot of Paul O'neill in Matt Murton. Quiet, unassuming, ballplayer in every sense of the word. Surprising athelethic, has the grit, that passion for the game. And while, I don't see Murton hitting 30 homeruns---outside of career yr---I could see a yearly #'s of .320/.380/.500 with 20hrs/90rbi, and be considered the "best" pure hitter on the team.
  5. I wouldn't. Not because I am a BIG fan of Pie. Not because Dunn wouldn't be worth it. But simply because WHO would play CF or even RF if the Cubs traded Pie? I don't want Patterson back (I think one way or another he is gone, anyways). Murton and Dunn are BOTH LF, and as defenders very BLAH at it. And if the Cubs put either one in RF, the OF defense would be horrible. Harvey is still a couple of yrs away. Greenberg is viewed as a 4th OF Dave Roberts type player. And with the FA crop of OF being THIN, I don't see an upgrade. The Cubs would then have to make another trade to bring in a legit CF and/or RF, and I don't know if the price will be worth it. Besides I think Cincy learn from Pittsburgh's mistake, and won't trade Dunn to the Cubs. So all of this talk is moot.
  6. Maybe I was a bit harsh, thus I apologize. BUT, I don't agree that Kearns is worth a lefty with his kind of stuff. That doesn't MEAN I wouldn't trade Hill, just that I wouldn't trade him for Kearns. Edwin Encarnacion? Yes. Adam Dunn? Yes. Austin Kearns? No. And I do believe that Hill can add veloicty, if his mechanics are TWEAKED a little bit. But unless he adds a solid changeup, I could definately see Rich Hill as the Cubs version of BJ Ryan. This is a fair assessment and I agree with it: And we may want to refrain from trashing someones's ability to scout before all the facts are there. I've laid out some pretty good ones. Unless your affilated with the team as a scout, any "fans" scouting has to be questioned, as it tends to have a bit of homerism as part of his "scouting." Rather it is on purpose, or not, everybody tends to believe certain players are better or worse then what they really are. Scouting is ALSO loosely based, because different games have different variables, with different outcomes. Just because one game you saw Rich Hill thrown a 87-91 FB, doesn't mean his next game will follow suit. Scouting is just a dressed up way of "speculating." I apologize again, if I was a bit harsh. But I do stand by what I said.
  7. Well, thePenguin isn't off-base with Hill's fastball as JJ Cooper of BA.com said about Rich Hill: So I do believe that thePenguin is OFF with his "scouting" of Rich Hill, maybe because he has delusions of trying to get the megaoverrated Austin Kearns. BUT, Rich Hill, IMO, does need a third pitch if he wants to become a starter, otherwise his stuff maybe that of a lefty setup.
  8. They NEVER said you have to be "purty" to play the game of baseball, the RIGHT way.
  9. On Farnsworth: He HAD to be dealt. If for not other reason, was his ACT was getting OLD, very quickly. And the fact that Scott Moore is having an OUTSTANING season. And Novoa is still young enough that ANOTHER team may like his arm in a trade. On Patterson: I can safely say, he won't be a "Lou Brock" player after he leaves Chicago. I'm willing to bet that Corey ends up being a Jacques Jones type player.
  10. Willis I could you see your point, but Garland? http://baseballreference.com/g/garlajo01.shtml This JON GARLAND? This season is SO OUT OF WACK for Garland is not even funny. I don't miss Garland.
  11. Pagin Dr. "Snot" Dempster, you're needed in the emergency room, er...mound. Dr. Dempster you're needed in the emergency room. The Cubs WILL NOT lose this game. :evil:
  12. I think it's blatantly obvious that this was forced on him from above. God, or Jim Hendry?
  13. Hey, if they want Matt Murton, all they have to do is give up Billy Butler, that's all.
  14. Dubois on being sent down: Corey on being sent down: I believe that those two quotes shows you the difference in maturity level between Dubois and Patterson. Dubois is looking at it half-full, and WANTS to improve his game to get back to Chicago, whereas Corey Patterson is looking at it half-empty, and he prolly feels he doesn't "deserve" to be sent to AAA. I honestly believe Corey is in AAA for quite awhile, to be honest, or he won't be with the organization after the trade deadline. His attitude, right now, STINKS to high heavens.
  15. Right now, I rather have a ROOT CANAL then watch the Cubs. I rather do my taxes, Listen to Kato Kaelin speak politics, Filmed John Goodman doing a lapdance, (is that normal?) Watch Glitter till my eyes bleed, And listen to a duet of Snow/Vanilla Ice Then watching the Cubs, right now. I love them, but ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
  16. Here's a philospohical question for everyone. Was Dusty starting Macias over Hairston ?...... or was Dusty starting Patterson over Hairston ???? Right now....is Macias and Patterson....INTERCHANGEABLE?
  17. I still go to that board, but everyday another loser like chumps97 (or JasonHart, cubsstink, or whoever the heck he is going by today) is driving me away from that board, and I am finding myself more and more on this board, lately. Sometimes over at cubs.com, but mainly here, when I am on.
  18. I'm a little slow so forgive me, but I just realize that I saw Wednesday's "proposed" lineup, and it had Macias in OVER Hairston. I'm thinking is this....was starting Macias of Hairston a punishment towards Jerry and his "displeasure" over the lack of playing time, he mentioned through the media? I mean, other then that, I can't see a LEGIT reason to ever start Macias over Hairston, unless your trying to tank. So again, was this a punishment towards Jerry for running off the mouth about playing time?
  19. What the Cubs need to do is quietly send Baker over to the Cards. :twisted: :evil: With Jose Macias, and Nefti Perez.
  20. Personally, I don't believe Cubs/Nats are a right trading partners for Corey. WHY? Because 1: Washington would first try to sell the Cubs on somebody like Marlon Byrd. Anybody who knows Byrd knows that he is then-Phillies version of Corey Patterson. Why even go into that. Or they would try and use Brendan Harris as bait, and the irony would be duely appreciated. 2: The Cubs would try and ask for Ryan Church, which they would politely decline, for obvious reason. So if I am the Cubs, and the Nats are wanting Patterson, I would ask for Tyrell Godwin. Granted he isn't as toolsy as Patterson, but maybe as fast (even tho, the SB/CS is horrible) but he does have a 43-38(k:bb), which means he knows how to take a walk. Now Godwin is the same age as CPatt, but seeing as Godwin is more of a leadoff hitter then CPatt, he may be a better fit then CPatt. But again, that's me.
  21. I'm not trying to hate on the Cards, but I seriously don't see them acquiring an EVERYDAY OFer before the deadline, mainly because you still have Walker. Walker can still be productive in a PLATOON situation. So acquiring somebody like a Wells, who is a starter, just to platoon him, MAY not sit well with that person. I fully believe the Cards will end up with an Eric Byrnes/Matt Lawton type player. Disappointing if I was a Cards fan (but the Cards are not getting a BIG time OFer this deadline, cause I don't see any available). And would it really be dissapointing if you Walker/Lawton/Sanders platooning LF/RF?
  22. Abou 10 games, or so. I think the Cubs should FORGET about trying to acquire anybody at the deadline, especially if they lose the series in Atl and Florida, which I should suspsect will happen. This team ain't making the playoffs, heck the Cubs goal in the 2nd half, is to make it look like they give a darn.
  23. Their motivation would be to get young pitching. I don't mean necesarily those three players. I was using them as examples of the kind of impact players that Walt might get. Those just happen to be the three players I would most like to see in a Cardinals uniform. If you were talking Kaz Matsui, then I would tend to agree. But seeing as you are talking about Hedeki Matsui, then I would disagree. The Yanks ARE NOT known to have either patience for young player (with exceptions), nor is Steinbrenner going to sign off on a "white flag" type deal. And any move that requires trading Hedeki Matsui, would be consider "white flag." And if Steinbrenner were interested in trading Matsui, the Cards would have to give up both Wainwright, and Reyes, something I know the Cards won't do. On Mench: a productive, CHEAP, 27 yr old OF, will not be cheap, thus, he would prolly would cost the Cards; Wainwright and Hawksworth. I personally believe the Cards may target a platoon player to go with Walker---who has officially broken down. And then look at OF options after the season. Or the could take a look at Rick Ankiel for RF, if they want to be cheap. :-#
  24. If the Cubs can't move him, they need to change his role on the team. I personally, would---until further notice---take Corey out of the starting lineup, and make Hairston the FULL-TIME starter. I would then make Corey the 4th OF/defensive replacement, until he can show he should be trusted to start again. He is a LIABILITY out there. He hasn't EARN the right to continue to work through his slump, which is now going on 5 yrs. When Matt Clement struggled last yr, Baker had NO problem from pulling him from the rotation, and inserting Glendon Rusch. So why is he hestitating pulling CPatt for Hairston?
  25. Eric Byrnes Bobby Kielty Jeff Conine Preston Wilson Jacque Jones Shawn Green Jody Gerut Laynce Nix Jason Michaels Matt Lawton David Dellucci Juan Encarnacion But on that list, I bet these are the ONLY legit OFers they could land. Whether teams are not ready to sell (TB, Oak, NYY), or propsects to move for an OFer (Kearns,Dunn,Huff), or whatever the case is. Personally, it wouldn't surprise me if they ended up with Jody Gerut or Matt Lawton.
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