ERA 1.85 2.43 BAA .218 .207 WHIP 1.25 1.14 S/SO 33/35 35/40 BB:K 27:53 24/100 (I'm comparing the two as RELIEVERS, and did not include Demspter's stint as a starter, seeing as Ryan will never be used as a stater) Would somebody please tell me where in those stats lies a rationality in spending prolly another 6-8 mill on somebody who throws left-handed? BJ Ryan is talented, no question, but enough to justify him as an upgrade over Dempster, I'm not so sure. At best he would ba A LATERAL MOVE. Take out Dempster's starter's #'s and make him a full-time closer to begin 2005, and I am willing to bet, his numbers are closer if not better then BJ Ryan's. But to continue to prove my point: (Ohman numbers are represented by a * .v. Ryan in 2005) .v. lefties *.177/.278/.329/.607 .211/.275/352/.627 righties .209/282/267/549 *.227/.363/.333/.696 So you saying, Ryan was significantly better .v. righties then Ohman in 2005, so let's take it back a yr to 2004 (a yr before Ryan became a "stud" closer): .v. lefties .177/.278/.329/.607 Ohman in 2005 (at 28 yrs old) .v. righties.227/.363/.333/.696 .v. lefties .94/.164/.160/.324 Ryan in 2004 as set-up (then 28 ) .v. righties .252/.331/.327.658 Anyway you cut it, you CAN'T justfy paying BJ Ryan $6-8 mill per (or more) for say 4 yrs, when the Cubs already have an in-house candidate very similar to Ryan in Will Ohman, in terms of being a lefty, stuff, and stats. And the Cubs already have an in-house candidate might be as good as Ryan as a closer. And to justify going after BJ Ryan because he throws the ball lefty, isn't a real reason. If the Cubs didn't have Ohman, then yeah, but as a closer and/or set-up he would be a expensive redundacy. And he is an luxury we can afford not to persue. I like BJ Ryan, but he is NOT a need. This teams should go after NEEDS, and if/when they accomplish that goal, then look for wants. Sidenote: Will Ohman was taken by the Cubs in the 8th rd of the 1998 (one pick after the A's took Eric Byrnes who was later dealt to the Rockies for Joe Kennedy who went 2nd to the last pick of the 8th rd) draft while,BJ Ryan was taken in the 17th rd of the 1998 draft (3 picks after Cubs taking Eric Hinske and 2 picks before the Padres too Brian Lawrence).