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  1. I didn't think the front office changed at all post-Sloan.
  2. I can't believe we're still talking about Vitters 30 spots after he was ranked.
  3. So his problem was being too fat, not too small? I'm actually shocked, the first pic is about what I look like, and that height weight about matches (but I can't run a 4.7 or bench 320)
  4. I thinks he's done more than lost his luster. Maybe it's wrong, but I'd feel better about his struggles if I thought it was some type if combination of things but it seems like a pretty binary thing where he can't make contact and any other tools are moot because of that. Considering the contact thing was always his biggest weakness it seems to have finally blown up. To briefly compare the two again, I think Jackson is about 3 years from his high point as a prospect (2011) whereas Vitters is about two years from his last high point (his 2012 AAA time). Since then Vitters is obviously a bit of an enigma because he played so little last year, which is certainly a factor I dropping him. But Jackson has played and it hasn't been pretty, generally trending down consistently. So I think that year makes a difference. If Vitters can't stay on the field or falls on his face as a hitter or doesn't make progress at his new position, you'll rightfully see a similar drop. I think people are generally more likely to give a mulligan on a injury shortened season that showed even a little bit of hope than a just plain bad season. And I think that's the big difference, Brett had a confirmation of fears with little light at the end if the tunnel whereas Vitters has a frustrating year and a dim light at the end of the tunnel.
  5. I won't make this about Vitters because he's been discussed so much. But Brett Jackson has absolutely fallen on his face and sucked. Even in 2012 when he put up somewhat interesting AAA numbers, they were down from his 2011 AAA numbers. He's been trending down, and the switches in his swing make me feel worse about his chances than better. Whether it was the right call or not, he's now changed it twice in two years and he already had contact issues. The defense is good but not good enough to be a defense only role player. And SSS and all but the early returns on his switch back to his old swing don't look promising. That said, I know very little about the other guys at this point in the rankings, so maybe he deserves to be rated here, but he as rightfully fallen from where he once stood.
  6. I'll be bold and predict that Brett Jackson will have a better major league career than Josh Vitters. Well this isn't too bold just because Jackson currently has a better mlb career. So even though he'll never see a big league roster again, if Vitters doesn't also or fails to improve, it will remain true.
  7. Well maybe one bolts this year. Will happen sometime within the next three, but the odds put it at later than sooner. Though still plenty of West teams that should be much more gelled than the first year of our potential big three. Saying next year doesn't matter is perhaps a bit harsh in tone, but my entire point was that getting Melo is the number one priority, not keeping an entire roster intact or building a new full roster. Acquiring Melo inherently means creating a thin roster with meaningful gaps- it could mean a really crappy 2M per year PF or SF (with Melo being our PF in the latter) and all junk after that. Or just having a generally crappy or at best inexperienced bench and a Rose who probably will be more like second year Rose.
  8. Okay Wades kind of hobbled, but pretty much, yes.
  9. Well I expect him to play but he wasn't lighting the world on fire early this season despite him looking pretty good physically. The good thing is you don't need to be the regular season champ - just be your best in the playoffs but after being out of three straight playoffs I'm not holding my breath on Rose being the best version of himself in the playoffs 4 years after his last legit playoff experience. He needs time. He's not gonna be the Rose we knew in 2011, even though I expect him to generally be there physically. He's a young player who's missed a ton of time. Even Jordan needed an offseason to really become himself again after a long basketball hiatus, but he was MUCH more experienced. We should still expect to be very good, but with a year to gel and a still full strength Heat, we should expect to fall short, whereas there's a good chance the few years after that we should have expectations of being legit favorites if we play everything right. Looking at championship teams I can't think of any that really won the first year of their current build (generally speaking), other than Detroit who had a mid season trade for Sheed. If you're going for the Detroit model, then you aren't talking about getting Melo I guess. Just amnestyIng Boozer, signing Mirotic, and getting whatever roughly 7-8M remaining gets you in FA and remain flexible in trades and a top D middling O otherwise.
  10. No it's really true guys, Rose isn't gonna be fully ready next year. And even if he does, this isn't the MLB where there's only money in between you and building the roster as there's just tons of stupid rules. There's no way we can add Melo and also reasonably expect to retain/add a full Championship roster. It's the NBA so you build the top first. That being said the current team without Rose and no Melo is still a contender to make it to the ECF, but realistically speaking we'll be on year one of our big three where we gutted the roster, so if 15 is our version of the 89 Bulls, 16-18 should be our 91-93 Bulls. We're not talking about tanking, but the realistic expectation of getting a top 15 player is gonna require some sacrifice, and not worrying about a guy who's never played an NBA game or even someone like Gibson if push comes to shove.
  11. The only true untouchables for Melo are Noah and Rose. Butler and Taj you really wanna hold onto as they round out your top 5, but they're available if they are okay taking a lot less overall- but not sure why they would be. Even if we got Melo nest year doesn't really matter as it's another Rose recover year. I'm honestly playing for 16-18 as our peak years so that gives us time to build additional pieces. Cost is nearly meaningless. We're not gonna be in a position to be under the cap so whether Melo makes 16 or 20 were gonna have the same general restrictions from a CBA perspective. Just matters for the owners pocket book. They'll never be a NY or NJ, but we can expect them to be a Lakers type spender with the right roster.
  12. Ravens are usually a BPA team and this pick will also be a nice weapon for Flacco as well. Eric Ebron, TE North Carolina (Also considered Dix)
  13. Nah, Jesse Palmer is the next Luke McNown!
  14. The best scenario is a S&T where they accept around Boozer, and have their pick of assets (MDJ, Mirotic, Snell, Smith, 16 pick, 19 pick, 49 pick, Sact pick, Cle Swap, 2 second rounders from Deng trade, and our own first and second for the next 5 years). There's something there to work with. But anyways, if it's a S&T we retain our MLE (about 5M), otherwise, if we're under the cap, we only have the room MLE which is only about 2.7 per for two years.
  15. YEAH U DO! Really completed by my typo of don't as dong.
  16. That tweet is a little misleading. The cap was already projected to be up. This new number is only 0.5-1 M more than previous projections.
  17. As I'm sure Raisin will be taking suggestions, it's sure to be between Dix and Donald. While I dong love the idea of 1st round S, but I like Dix a lot and I feel there is a better shot of getting a DT in round two than a S. So I would choose Dix, but it's close.
  18. Most things I read have the Rams interested in him, so I'm sure he'll go at 2 if they don't trade down.
  19. I'm not too high on Warren. His lack of outside shot worries me as a wing player, and he isn't going to guard to post enough to play him in the front court. Him and Jimmy on the wings together, for instance, would worry me. And he doesn't really project to be much of a wing defender either. So he's a really good mid-range scorer. Not sure that's what I want. Hairiston I like as a really good potential 3 and D guy on the wing. Kyle Anderson is a guy I have a bit of a draft crush on at the moment, despite his lack of athleticism and (related) defensive concerns.
  20. Yeah, I could justify any of the three directions and maybe it's just my personal bias, but I don't see enough of a gap between the top 4 QBs (Bridgewater, Manziel, Bortles, Carr) and the second and third tier guys (Garrapolo, Murray, Shaw, McCarron, Mettenberger, etc). I could see Bradley going with Mack/Watkins in the first and then waiting a bit to get one of the later QBs in a Russell Wilson-esque move. Mack was extremely tempting there, though, with Bradley being a defensive coach. Carr would have been the QB if I went that direction. Mack was tempting if I thought the Browns would do that. If it was me, my order would have been Mack then Bortels or Carr. Watkins was the only WR I would have considered there, but going Adams would surprise me if that scenario played out.
  21. Sammy Watkins was certainly in play. They definitely need a QB, but with no QBs taken yet, they could still get a good one with their second pick. The Browns can occasionally surprise. They should just go BPA (Mack) or a QB (they have their pick) here but they do the dumb thing and reach for a WR in a deep WR draft; Mike Evans WR, Texas A&M PMd cubbyvirus
  22. I've seen it mentioned, but it usually seems more in the context of them not even being at number 1 and speculating from there. It's a greater possibility than I though it was a month ago, but I'd still say the signs point to them going QB, recent rumors taken into account of the overall picture. Maybe we're reading way different sources though.
  23. Obviously Clowney could go number one if there's a trade, which maybe you're referring to but it seems still pretty strong towards a QB being the Texans top pick. I'd consider a trade less likely since it seems like the Rams are willing to move down too, muddying up the trade market as a seller.
  24. A) That is not necessarily more realistic. B) That is not necessarily the point of this exercise. Obviously pre-draft talk/rumor is always up for scrutiny, but almost all signs point to it being a QB. I'll be pretty surprised if it's not. If Clowney is taken I'll gladly eat crow for buying too much into the pre-draft rumors. It seems pretty obvious the direction they'll go at the moment though. Understood about point two, in all the years we've done this mock there's never been a consensus so people do different things. Which is no big deal cuz I think it's still fun. If everyone was as draft obsessed as I was I'd suggest running two concurrent drafts - one "what would I do" and one "what I think will happen". That'd be the most fun but I think not enough posters would share that level of enthusiasm to do this twice.
  25. Can't u choose a QB so the rest of the draft is realistic? Jk sorta
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