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Eli was actually the one example I was able to find when I went looking for recent QBs who got significantly better after year 3 (this was right after week 1). Everyone else was basically who they were by year 3, if not year 2. alex smith Was still hoping for more, but yea, forgot about him.

Pessimist. Almost every QB in recent memory was who they were by year 2, so Trubisky isn't improving. Optimist. By many passing metrics Mitch was basically a dead average QB in year 2 and added some additional value via his legs. This two game stretch is basically no worse than any average QB is bound to experience throughout a career. And early to say with certainty, but these were probably 2 good Ds overall. Pessimist. A average QB with Mitch's weaknesses nead some pretty specific gameplans to maximize him and Nagy has shown some really worrisome tendencies through 19 games in that regard. Optimist. They're still 13-6 in that run and it's not unrealistic to expect improvements from play callers* *source not cited.

this season, Cohen has had 2 dropped passes https://scores.nbcsports.com/fb/leaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232 Oh, this season. Yeah, that seems more likely. The previous poster seemed to be referring to this past game, so I thought you were referring to just that game, also. Fwiw I was referencing game 1 as I rewatched a good chunk of that game. He was probably worse game 2 as far as accuracy, though live I thought he was a lot worse on accuracy in game 1 then when I reviewed plays.

I don't know what this means considering how incredibly different these two QBs are, but my god it will be a miracle if Mitchell somehow gets to 24 touchdowns this year. it was meant to mean that Eli was hugely disappointing his first 3 years in the fact that he was just...mediocre. Now, Eli won a couple of Super Bowls-some would even say despite the fact his team was quarterbacked by Eli Manning. He does have that above Mitchell. But in the end, my only real point is if you think Eli is somehow an improvement over Trubisky at this stage of Mannings career, you're nuts. Or stupid. Or perhaps, full of gumbers pee balls. Eli was actually the one example I was able to find when I went looking for recent QBs who got significantly better after year 3 (this was right after week 1). Everyone else was basically who they were by year 3, if not year 2.

This isn't a one game issue. He's missed guys badly a lot. Somebody shared a video showing how awful he is when he has time to think vs other times when he looks great. I'll never forget (nor probably forgive) him missing badly on an easy touchdown in Miami last year, since I was there and everybody in the house knew it was a touchdown until the ball sailed past. He is, way more often than is acceptable, egregiously inaccurate. He used to make 4 good throws for every one weirdly inaccurate one. Now he's making one good throw per game. That 4:1 ratio seems like a reasonable assessment of last season. The 1 good throw a game might be hyperbole. Just based on rewatching game 1, I'm not sure there were 10 good throws to even make the whole game (excluding check downs). He probably missed 3 or 4 of those completely (i.e. Didn't even see it), missed 1 or 2 with inaccuracy. Had 1 or 2 dropped, and made the rest (but only 1 or 2 were "wow" throws that could be used when someone wants to put a mixtape together showing how Mitch can "make all the throws")

Re: Mitch's bad throws: when I rewatched game 1 tape, a lot of throws that had looked bad live were really throw aways where the coverage sucked. Now his accuracy isn't what it was supposed to be, but I'm not sure he's some egregiously inaccurate passer. The bigger issue is definitely where he's just not seeing open receivers because his reads are bad.

Kaep's agent apparently reached out to 3 teams. That would instantly make this team mor interesting! Or they can trade for Eli Manning!

Well, Tom as least didn't fail to deliver when he said Hot Takes.

i thought they cut Bray. He's on the PS. But let's be honest, Bray is not the answer. Sink or swim with Mitch thus year and bring in real competition next year.

Two-point conversion is from the 2. PAT from like the 15 or something like that. So, when they got the offsides they decided to go for 2 from half the distance to the goalline (AKA the 1), instead of the PAT from the 10. Not that it would make a huge difference, but seems like it should be at the 2 and not the 1. 2 or 15. - 5 penalty. 7 or 20. + 5 yard penalty 2 or 15.

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Nagy is definitely broke except on the one thing that we joked broke him. That turned out great. So I wanted 15 QBs in rookie mini camp next year.

Turns out that and the Cubs' sham medical staff are all some kind of elaborate ruse by the Ricketts to net some sweet, sweet medical insurance fraud scratch. https://www.mlb.com/news/ted-lilly-named-special-assistant-by-chicago-cubs/c-68669074 https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/12288523/ex-major-leaguer-ted-lilly-accepts-insurance-fraud-plea-deal Yuuuup

Millenials amirite

It can simultaneously be true and "a bad look"

Yea. Even this game, I'd say whining about the refs is dumb. Theres only been one time I ever thought the refs were to blame for a loss and the scenario was allowing a untimed final play when the game should have ended on a penalty (this was a HS football game). Every other situation is basically entitled man child whining. also i'm pretty sure there have been way more times than your one high school game that the refs blew calls that altered the outcome of games. like a lot horsefeathering more. and calvin johnson definitely caught that touchdown. we can all go ahead and admit that now. the only reason the fail mary is defensible is because it was a result of that debacle with the replacement refs. Every other bad red call I can ever think of is ultimately a judgement call though. The judgement can be horsefeathering terrible, but that's just part of the game. Totally misrepresentation of the rulebook is another thing. It'd be like an umpire granting 4 outs in an inning. So yes, that's the only one I can chalk up to the refs without feeling like a whining man child (and fwiw I had no rooting interest in said game). Also this strategy is similar in nature to what the Ravens did in the Harbaugh-bowl SB, which is basically that, running the clock out is valuable if you have the ball with the lead, even if you have to commit murder and/or penalties. A potential shortcoming in the rules, but a correct call nonetheless.

Yea. Even this game, I'd say whining about the refs is dumb. Theres only been one time I ever thought the refs were to blame for a loss and the scenario was allowing a untimed final play when the game should have ended on a penalty (this was a HS football game). Every other situation is basically entitled man child whining.

And now Antonio Brown is being accused of rape.

Really great content from the Athletic here re: Nagy's issues. https://theathletic.com/1198089/2019/09/10/upon-further-review-breaking-down-the-bears-offensive-breakdown/

Solution: don't watch these sucky group of losers.

Depends on what turning the corner might mean. He's not gonna be a tier 1(Rodgers )or tier 2 (Rivers) or tier 3 (Ryan) . Can he be a Flacco/tier 4? Maybe, I'd say.

I don't think theres any extra moaning. Just an unproductive Friday instead of unproductive Monday.

I don't think the though process is odd, he's just a much more open book than Lovie or Fox were. And Trestmam would have probably gotten very philosophical about it. So it's been a while since we had this mix of openness and straightforwardness than were used to as Bears fans. His hands were tied only so much in he obviously wants to respect the autonomy of his coaches even though it's clearly his call to override what they say, if he wants.

I missed that. Who is deciding what this number will be, and how are they making that determination? Tabor. Based on pregame prep/kicks.

Was just watching the presser. He clearly states there's of course variability, and brought up the game winning kick scenario as an obvious one where you bend the rule or whatever. I don't know if it was perfect conditions. There was definitely some wind and according to Nagy, had it been in the other direction, 51 was in play, so they were going in the bad direction I guess. However, if 49-50 was your limit they did a poor job of maybe setting up something more manageable (or conversely opening up your 3rd and 4th down playbooks instead of 4th and 10). I think there was a penalty too that pushed them back.