WrigleyField 22
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He did have something that he predicted that came true, can't recall what it is. I think you could easily go into 2022 with Borom and Jenkins at RT/RG, as long as you get a versatile veteran as depth/competition. Not sure if JC Tretter is a good option at C with respect to scheme and what his contract demand might be. My take is sign some talented upside/value guys regardless of position and let them sort it out in training camp. Multiple C options would be great. Pushing Borom into a reserve role would be great. I don't understand why Borom would start T over Jenkins. Health? I think it is just kind of play style maybe? Jenkins plays with an agressive style that could maybe make him an elite G. And while he can probably handle outside he doesn't have elite OT measurables. Could just be that Poles sees a potential Brandon Scherff like G instead of like a mid range starting T. As for Borom, he then fills out the other spot, but you focus on best guy in best spot first.
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Not the group I was hoping for. HKS would have been better imo I want a real grass field like Raiders have though. Hope they do it again.
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Based on this DE market, I think Poles sold low on Mack, but should try and make up for it by selling high on Quinn.
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Daniels got 3/26.5 and the guy they signed to replace him got 2/8. And he's supposedly a more nasty type of lineman, which Poles made clear he prefers. I think saving money and getting the type of player you prefer makes sense here. Daniels should have been a good got athletically for the scheme. I guess attitude (or even consistency) are being prioritized. This guy got ARob extension wrong last year, but I feel like maybe he has called other things and is maybe connected?
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I think theres a little bit of conflating correlation and causation with analysis like this sometimes. Bad teams aren't ncessarily bad because they overspend in FA. They're overspending in FA because they drafted poorly. If you're bad, you can splurge big in FA and still try to improve the draft part. NFL isn't great for tanking benefits. Careers are too short and schedule too much variance. There are certain narrow ways where FA spending inhibits draft development, but if anything it actually could mean the best bet is spending big in just a few areas rather than spreading around too much. And you have to spend a 90% target in actual cash so it's hard to underspend and if eventually you roll all that space over and have like a 100M cap room year you're basically guaranteed to spend it inefficiently then because you can't spend thst much all at once efficiently (or it would be very difficult). I didn't intend to comment on good teams/bad teams in any way. Watching the first couple days of FA and seeing some predictable and surprising overpays reinforces the goal of every team, which is building through the draft. Interesting comment on excessive cap space. I assume there is a salary floor, do we know what it is compared to the cap? Its technically a cash floor, not a cap floor, but for all intents basically the same because of the rollover provisions. It's 89% I think, over a 3 year period.
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Whaddaya Seiya Suzuki (Signed with Cubs, 5/$85m)
WrigleyField 22 replied to David's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
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Can't argue with that.
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In what way? Every NFL team is gonna spend pretty close to the same amount. There isn't a huge spending differnce. If you don't have your own good players, you sign other teams until you at least hit minimum spending thresholds. Now you could hold back the 10% spending once you hit the minimum and role it forward to some future date, but I'm of the opinion it's gonna be hard to blow your load and spend efficiently later on when you hit the "were trying now phase". The pure economic argument is to overspend the cap and defer cap hits to do so. Ideally only by a modest amount (one day I want to model out a target number, but I'm thinking it's 110-115% of cap as cash spending). So just always be trying to improve incrimentally using both draft and FA. FA isn't efficient, but it can absolutely give you big leaps in team growth in absolute terms. About the only team building strategy that changes from rebuild to contender windows is how to use draft picks in veteran trades.
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We got an offensive player! (guessing a swing guy, maybe competing with a rookie.)
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Okay BOPA it is.
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Young guy. 27 in July but spent 2021 on IR 29 career starts. Seems more like a Will, not Sam? Edit- Maybe he can be either
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He is a douche, but I know of at least this one Oh I've seen the Watson part, but no one saying Bears are in on him.
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DBB is such a douche (also I haven't seen a single national guy echo this)
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Yep. Want some sure things for Fields support and FA is better for some sure things even if it isn't efficient.
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Still think he could hit wave 3 FA hard enough on O to be true BPA, but we'll see how the next 3 days shake out. I'm sure he could, what I'm saying is even if they did that, I still want the BOPA. There's some D players that look like they'd be good adds. I would be most interested in a CB with one of the first 3 people picks at least. Some intriguing LB, but positionally I know that's less important. But also a strong edge class and that's suddenly a more realistic value spot for the Bears than it was a week ago. I'm okay with a balanced approach all in all. Just don't wanna see them pigeonholed because at 39 and 49, it's really tough to predict what will actually be there. If I had to mock my perfect draft and not have to reach, it would prob be Trade down for an extra 4th Rd.2.1 - WR Rd.2.2 - OL Rd. 3 - CB Rd. 4 - DL Rd.5. 1 - RB or WR Rd 5.2 - LB Rd 6 - OL
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It's a bit ridiculous. The Bears have a ton of roster spots to fill so they are going to add FAs. I always figured we would be shopping from more of the secondary tier of FAs anyways. Give the dude a chance to execute his plan. What do they want, go on a FA signing spree like the Jags are? I think we've been down that road before more than once, got us here with a completely revamped leadership team and few draft picks to help rebuild the team. Build through the draft first. For us, that means getting the draft picks to begin with. Gonna take time... I want them to spend money. I think it's false you have to "first draft". They can walk and talk at same time. That said I'm not sure there's necessarily a inherently better way to spend it vis a vie big splashes on day 1/2 verse mid-range signings. The only preference I do have is keeping CFA signings at a net defecit as often as possible. But that can be employed in either strategy. Willing to see things out and judge the offseason as a whole rather than bits and pieces of it (and even then grading the offseason is meaningless until games are played).
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Same. BOPA Still think he could hit wave 3 FA hard enough on O to be true BPA, but we'll see how the next 3 days shake out.
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DBB posting a bunch about the OL this afternoon, but all feels very editorialized and spinny. And I'm not even sure we should assume his sources are gonna be that close to Poles thought processes (been theorized his source is close to Ted) But fwiw he basically said: Poles wants Armstead Had no interest in Daniels Not sure in Jenkins is T Not sure if Borom is starter Old FAs wont solve their issues. Connected all those tweets IF true basically mean needing to draft 2 or 3 OL starters, depending on Armstead outcome. I'm not convinced.
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I think theres a little bit of conflating correlation and causation with analysis like this sometimes. Bad teams aren't ncessarily bad because they overspend in FA. They're overspending in FA because they drafted poorly. If you're bad, you can splurge big in FA and still try to improve the draft part. NFL isn't great for tanking benefits. Careers are too short and schedule too much variance. There are certain narrow ways where FA spending inhibits draft development, but if anything it actually could mean the best bet is spending big in just a few areas rather than spreading around too much. And you have to spend a 90% target in actual cash so it's hard to underspend and if eventually you roll all that space over and have like a 100M cap room year you're basically guaranteed to spend it inefficiently then because you can't spend thst much all at once efficiently (or it would be very difficult).
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Just guessing here. But 60M AAV in spending was my target heading into yesterday. Ogunjobi is 13 of that so let's say 40-45 left to spend. Need starters or main rotation pieces minimally at WRx2 OLx2 or 3 MIKE LB CB S So 7 or 8 starters still needed. And some rotation pieces maybe in that sub 2M range. A lot of non CFA options available in the remaining group, especially OL. They could conceivably fill out their depth in wave 3 of FA and have no glaring hole heading into draft.
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We've just hit 24 hour mark of FA and it appears all of Poles goodwill on Bears Twitter is officially gone lol.
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At only 3/27 too. I'd have easily gone up to 3/30. That should count as a Rd 5 comp debit for Bears 2023 comp pick. As it stands now though, Ogunjobi offsets that. But there are a lot of compelling non CFA FA the Bears can build their line with (though it'd be a little old).
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New CBA negotiations
WrigleyField 22 replied to Transmogrified Tiger's topic in General Baseball Talk
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Also unless you're just sitting out FA you aren't getting much younger than Ogunjobi. His deal will go through his age 30 season.
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Also mark this down as a likely 4th round credit (negative) for the 2023 comp pick formula.
