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  1. Luzardo's no good very bad injury plagued season last year was still around league average pace for a full season, and we're seeing what those guys get on the open market. I don't love the risk enough to be happy with Caissie going out, but especially given Luzardo's upside I don't think it's outrageous value.
  2. He's 32 and had a bit of a down year including losing a tick off the fastball. I personally like him as an addition just fine, though at this stage in the offseason I don't really see a path to it given the moves already made, and the Mariners apparent goals for their moves.
  3. Very possible! In this example i think the difference comes down to scope of role. Workman provides value with the glove and if you have Solano you can ease the bat in as much as Workman earns. Workman’s ceiling is a utility type so he’s meeting his future today. With Shaw when he comes up you want it to be playing most days and i think you want to give him more AAA time than he’s had so far to be sure he doesn’t fall on his face in a season you need to compete. EDIT: Also recall the presupposition is that the FO views Workman as a shade below league average as a hitter, so while there may be acclimation it’s with the assumption that Workman is a well rounded bench IF now
  4. I think the idea would be that across a trio of Workman, a Wisdom type, and Shaw, that you get there in the aggregate. Pre-Shaw callup you have a platoon with Workman getting shielded from tough RHP and serving as late innings defensive replacement. Post Shaw Workman still has utility as a LHH IF with all the other non-1B bring RHH. And then the Wisdom profile provides platoon cover for Busch and maybe even PCA if they think Tucker can play a little CF.
  5. I think how they view Workman is a sneaky factor in this. Maybe he’s simply a flyer since they like the profile and there’s little consideration in building the roster. But they haven’t made many Rule 5 picks, and doing so after the Tucker rumors began feels a little intentional. If they think he’s a 90-95 wRC+, especially if shielded from LHP, maybe they think they have Rojas at home? If so, then it may make sense to go after a Wisdom type, a RHH with higher offensive floor but more defensive questions. Donovan Solano is the FA name that jumps off the page, and Jorge Polanco isn’t RHH but may serve a similar purpose if you think either can play 3B at least part time.
  6. Yes, that's why they might trade him now instead of the deadline? We agree?
  7. Maybe, but if they think he's cooked or the risk of further injury is high enough, it becomes a net negative to wait.
  8. Feel like 4 LHSP is where I start getting more legitimately antsy about negative network effects, but Luzardo is tempting. Just have to add Roki as #6 to make sure there's balance I guess.
  9. * Make the Bellinger deal and finalize Kelly * Alcantara and a sub-Birdsell P for Cease * Finnegan and Minter for the pen (15M combined) * Donovan Solano (6M) as your Shaw/Busch hedge and RHH bench bat, NRI a LHH PH until Caissie is ready
  10. He's our 2nd best hitter by a good margin too, and better reporters than Jesse Rogers(Sharma, in particular) have indicated the DH thing is overblown. Plus, it seems pretty clear the Bellinger train has left the station either way.
  11. Now that it's official, let's steer the convo to the specific thread for it:
  12. It is okay to enjoy things, sports can only hurt you if you let them
  13. Yeah we'll let the minute to minute mayhem die down and then probably lock this guy and migrate a bunch of it over
  14. If Warren is in fact coming from New York I think I prefer Wesneski to go. Different profiles and different uses, so you get your Wesneski clone and ship him out to maintain status quo.
  15. Jon Heyman, also a paragon of journalistic integrity. The Jons will never steer ya wrong, I've said it for years
  16. Always liked Jon Morosi, most reliable of all the rumor mongers I say
  17. There are no less than 5 names(including Moncada) that have been mentioned for this purpose this morning alone, it's clearly the mainstream line of thinking that Shaw is not Plan A, B, and C for 3B, even if using Paredes in a Tucker trade means Shaw will likely have more importance for 3B than we would've thought a month ago. I'm begging you to stop arguing with the imaginary groupthink you've invented and actually just talk about the points that are literally being made.
  18. Then what in the world are you on about
  19. It is a post I made replying to you, which even in the preview you can see includes the Fangraphs link. You replied to it, and made multiple other posts in that back and forth afterwards.
  20. So your contention is that Shaw is not a consideration for 3B? Off the table as an option? If they trade Paredes in a Tucker deal what do you think will happen?
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